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tino
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« on: February 01, 2008, 11:07:19 PM »

Gnome Linux updated

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The Gnome project has released the first test version of Gnome 2.22 this week, including a new Web-browser engine, a new virtual file system and updates for virtual network computing and accessibility.

Small updates in comparison with the major one recently by KDE, still nice to see them mind.
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2008, 12:51:43 PM »

web-browser engine?  they make their own browser?
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2008, 08:58:15 PM »

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web-browser engine?  they make their own browser?

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One of the more drastic changes in the latest Gnome release is a change to the back-end engine of the built-in Epiphany Web browser. From using the same Gecko engine found in Firefox and related browsers, Epiphany will switch to WebKit, the KHTML-based rendering engine found in Apple's Safari and Mac OS X, KDE's Konqueror and other applications.

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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2008, 04:13:47 AM »

they're switching from Gecko to KDE's browser technology?  Seems odd.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2008, 05:54:42 AM »

Seems odd to me also.  One of the main philosophical goals behind Gnome in the first place was that QT was not free and/or was license encumbered and they wanted to create a DE that would be totally free and unencumbered from royalties, licenses, and patents.  Which is why the enterprise oriented distros such as Fedora/Red Hat, SuSe, and Ubuntu focus mainly on Gnome.  QT 4 is owned by Trolltech.  Now they seem to be backing away from that ideal and using a QT4 based browser?  Seems odd to me.

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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2008, 12:47:05 PM »

hasn't Suse always been more of a KDE distro?

Also, using the engine from a browser isn't the same as using the browser it's self, they aren't necessarily using the same widgets and browser program as KDE, so it may not use QT.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2008, 05:36:50 PM »

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One of the more drastic changes in the latest Gnome release is a change to the back-end engine of the built-in Epiphany Web browser. From using the same Gecko engine found in Firefox and related browsers, Epiphany will switch to WebKit, the KHTML-based rendering engine found in Apple's Safari and Mac OS X, KDE's Konqueror and other applications.

WebKit is integrated with the upcoming Qt v4.4 application development framework. Qt could soon become more widespread in embedded devices following Nokia's acquisition of Trolltech, Qt's developer.

Qt forms the basis of many well-known desktop applications, such as Google Earth, Opera and Skype. Qt is used to develop graphical user interfaces (GUIs) and is the main GUI toolkit for KDE.

Qt's derivative, Qtopia--also a Trolltech product--is already used in millions of consumer-level mobile phones, notably in Asia and through the manufacturer Motorola.

Gnome is going to officially include QT 4 in it's product, just as Nokia has acquired QT's patents and rights.  The big question is, will Nokia let OSS use QT without charge or will Nokia decide to enforce it's royalties?  If it's the latter, then we will have SCO all over again, so I don't know why Gnome chose this of all times to start using QT.  SCO's claim was obscure and hard to prove.  If Nokia goes this route, QT is well documented, I'm sure Trolltech did all the correct steps for it's patents, and it won't be hard to prove who uses QT as they advertise the fact.  So their case would be much stronger than SCO's was.  If this happens, KDE will have a LOT more problems than Gnome.

Now bear in mind I'm not a lawyer, and I really don't know under what conditions Trolltech let KDE use QT in the past.  But QT is now under Nokia's control and I'm merely pointing out what could happen.  Hopefully it wont.

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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2008, 06:33:24 PM »

Quote from: "MrbLOB9000" date="1202060825"
hasn't Suse always been more of a KDE distro?

Also, using the engine from a browser isn't the same as using the browser it's self, they aren't necessarily using the same widgets and browser program as KDE, so it may not use QT.

Yeh SuSe is basically a KDE distro, it hardly use's Gnome at all. Well the comunity one is very much a KDE distro.
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