Speedfan and IDEQ 210P

[username1234]

Hi

I'm trying to upgrade my Biostar 210P to Windows Vista Home Premium, but speedfan, whilst it works OK now on the 210P, when you restart the machine, or when you switch it off and on again, without turning it off and on again at the mains, after the Biostar flash screen the HW monitor after POST hangs and says CPU temp is 248c. I have to switch it off at the mains and then on again and all is fine.

Any ideas what the problem is here?

Also, I'm looking at doing one final upgrade of the system in a few months time, to make it as good as it can be on vista. The cpu is the Newcastle A64 2800+, it scores 3.9 on the index. Would I see a noticable performance increase if I got a Venice core A64 3200+? Is it worth the hassle?

Cheers

1234.



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Biostar IDEQ 210P (with SilenX CPU, Exhaust and PSU fans) - AMD Athlon 64 2800+ - 1GB Kingston DDR400 - XFX NVIDIA Geforce 6200 - Hauppage MCE-150 - 120GB Samsung Spinpoint

[username1234]

Right...

I got over the restart issue by disabling the HW monitor in POST so now it restarts and switches off ok.

However now I seem to have lost the GPU temp in SpeedFan and also Speedfan seems to loose its fan settings (ie they come on at 100% and dont spin down) is this just because I have set it up incorrectly? or some incompatibility with my motherboard?

Any ideas?

thanks

1234

[tino]

Moved to the correct forum, hopefully rrussell will know the answer to your question, he tends to know alot about ideq's ;-P

Also, I’m looking at doing one final upgrade of the system in a few months time, to make it as good as it can be on vista. The cpu is the Newcastle A64 2800+, it scores 3.9 on the index. Would I see a noticable performance increase if I got a Venice core A64 3200+? Is it worth the hassle?

You would probably see a small increase, if it would be worth the outlay? I don't think so, an 3500+ would be a better option an that is still a pretty high end chip. Although saying that you could always overclock the Venice to that speed as they were known to be good overclockers.

[username1234]

Ah right - ok well I can get a 3200+ venice for about £12 on ebay, the 3400+ seems to be more difficult to get hold of - I will hang on to see what I can find.

As for speedfan, I know it never used to work on the 210P, but it seems to be working for most of it now. I dont get a motherboard temp, just CPU and HDD now. I suppose as long as the CPU stays cool enough I dont need to worry about the motherboard temp too much. The GPU doesnt have a fan so there is nothing I could do about that anyway.

cheers

[rrussell]

You flatter me

Unfortunately, mine is a 200N and I don't know squat about the 210P

Maybe for the socket 754, you need the amd Cool'N'Quiet driver?

[username1234]

Hi - thanks for the reply.

The cool n quiet driver is built into Vista so it works just fine. The 210P used to have huge compatibility issues with speedfan when it was first launched, it used to corrupt the ITE sensors and give no temp readings at all in any program. I think the new Speedfan, 4.33 is it? works now, but maybe only with limited functionality.

The problem I have is that when it loads up the fans are both on 50% despite me setting them in the 'speed' tab to 65% CPU and 7% case fan and it doesnt seem to slow them down on its own, I have to adjust them manually. I suppose my question now is: is that still a compatibility problem or is it that I have not set Speedfan up correctly?

Cheers

1234

[rrussell]

That's very odd.. so it WILL control the speed, you just need to do it manually - does that mean with a little dial on the front of the case or by adjusting the up/down control in Speedfan?

ObObviousQuestion: Do you have all the checkboxes set up correctly as far as this temp controls THIS fan with THIS speed, and the fan is set to allow automatic control?

(I don't have the program in front of me, sorry, I'm going by memory - I might be a little off with the exact terminology on the screens...)

Because it sounds like the only thing missing is the connection between the temp and the fan control.

[rrussell]

I should mention that it's starting to sound like you want to hit the support forums (or whatever's available) at speedfan's website  I'm just grasping at straws...

[username1234]

Hi Ace - thanks for the reply, no not a little dial on the front of the case.... but might be a better idea!

I just have to use the up and down arrows in speedfan, I have set the temperatures for CPU and HDD with the targets and the warning temps, and in the speed tab set the max and min speeds for the fans - speedfan just seems to ignor them and sets them both at 50%. I will see if there is some checkbox problem tomorrow.

Thanks for your help.

1234

[rrussell]

Did you ever get this working?

[username1234]

Hi,

No i didnt yet - I am away for a bit now, but will have another go at getting it set up and keep you updated with what I find.

One thing, I checked out the Speedfan help pages and the ITE chip on the 210P motherboard is supported and does work on many other nforce3 250GB systems, but support for this particular ITE chip is still quite new, so we might see some added support in later versions.

Im going to try Speedfan in XP to see if it isnt some problem with running vista, again, I'll keep you updated!

Cheers, 1234