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BrandJury
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« on: September 20, 2008, 07:39:18 PM »

And loaded a client on each on the following systems running 24/7:

SD30G2 Plus w/E7200 @ 2.93Ghz and 9600GT, 2gb DDR2-800

SX38P2 Pro w/Q9300 @ 3.2Ghz and 9800GTX, 2gb DDR2-1066

Asus P43 chipset w/Q6600 @ 3.6Ghz and GTX 260, 4gb DDR2-800

ECS 7050m chipset w/E5200 @ stock speeds and 8800GS, 2b DDR2-800

How long would it take for me to become a F@H superstar?

For the record, I know virtually nothing about F@H aside from the very very basics.
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Maturin
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2008, 08:36:16 PM »

Not very long Smiley
Those Geforce cards should be VERY good for points. And you could run the GPU client along with SMP if you're on a Quad for an extra ~1200 points per day I'd bet. You'd be in the top three if not at the top of producers on our team with all of that running full tilt at once...
Give it a shot, it'll be lots of fun and for a great cause Smiley

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100fuegos
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2008, 10:25:15 PM »

You would be the top producer the 1st day you start to send results, thats for sure
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BrandJury
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 12:01:29 AM »

Ok - loaded onto the Q6600 rig -- I used Brand_Jury for the name and threw in 10688 for the team.  I'll get it on the two shuttles next, but I won't have a third monitor for system 4.
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Shadowtester
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2008, 12:46:07 AM »

My guess on the low side you would be in the 25k range could be much closer to 30k ppd with those rig would make you the top producer and you would shoot into the top 50 on the team in a very short amount of time. All I can say is wow great to have you on the team.
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BrandJury
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2008, 12:52:23 AM »

Perhaps I'm just tired, but I'm having a tough time finding the answers to some of my questions at the F@H site.

1.  How many CPU clients should I be able to run effectively with a Q6600?  I presume 4, but dunno for certain.
2.  I loaded the GPU client along side the CPU client, and there was a 10% increase in my CPU usage over the CPU client alone.  How many CPU clients can I run with the GPU client running as well?
3.  Do I need to do any optomization with the actual client, or will it use what it needs from what is available?

I'm letting it run just a single CPU and GPU client for now, but will load as many CPU clients as the system can handle.  Any ideas on how I should do this?
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Shadowtester
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2008, 03:38:16 AM »

On dual and quad core machines you should use the smp client and for maximum points you should run 1 smp client for each pair of cores. With the gpu2 client as well I think I would just run one smp and the gpu2 client it would be much easier and require a lot less baby sitting to keep running. Running dual smp clients is a little temper mental and requires much more user intervention to keep them going.
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Maturin
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2008, 07:05:34 AM »

The link to the SMP (Symmetric multi-processing - best for dual and quads) and GPU2 http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther
Your Quad cores - 1 SMP and 1 GPU2
Your Dual cores - 1 Regular CPU and one GPU2
Right Shadowester?
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Pudge
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2008, 07:13:30 AM »

Quote from: "BrandJury" date="1221969689"
Ok - loaded onto the Q6600 rig -- I used Brand_Jury for the name and threw in 10688 for the team.  I'll get it on the two shuttles next, but I won't have a third monitor for system 4.

If the computers are located near each other, buy a KVM.  I have four dedicated folding computers that share a keyboard, mouse, and monitor.  One monitor versus four also cuts down on power usage, not to mention cutting down on clutter.  One word of caution, I have had much better luck using a PS2 KVM than USB KVMs.  In my experience, USB KVMs are kind of flakey.  I have had good luck with LinksKey KVMs.  


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Shadowtester
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2008, 07:57:24 AM »

Quote from: "Maturin" date="1221995134"
The link to the SMP (Symmetric multi-processing - best for dual and quads) and GPU2 http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther
Your Quad cores - 1 SMP and 1 GPU2
Your Dual cores - 1 Regular CPU and one GPU2
Right Shadowester?

If your running Windows Vista or Linux with wine then the GPU2 does not require the resources of an entire core just about 10-15% so you can get by running a SMP client also on the dual core. If your running WinXP then the GPU2 does require the resources of an entire core so it only leaves 1 core free on a dual core so then you will only be able to runn a regular cpu client. Running the GPU2 client in Linux with wine is very advance and I can not recommend that for a new user.
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Shadowtester
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2008, 08:02:50 AM »

Quote from: "Pudge" date="1221995610"
Quote from: "BrandJury" date="1221969689"
Ok - loaded onto the Q6600 rig -- I used Brand_Jury for the name and threw in 10688 for the team.  I'll get it on the two shuttles next, but I won't have a third monitor for system 4.

If the computers are located near each other, buy a KVM.  I have four dedicated folding computers that share a keyboard, mouse, and monitor.  One monitor versus four also cuts down on power usage, not to mention cutting down on clutter.  One word of caution, I have had much better luck using a PS2 KVM than USB KVMs.  In my experience, USB KVMs are kind of flakey.  I have had good luck with LinksKey KVMs.  


Pudge

You can also use VNC software to remote control the computer as well. Myself I run nothing but Linux so I just use ssh and run only console client. A KVM setup would be easier the next easiest method would be VNC setting up and using ssh or telnet with only console client again would be the most advanced and hardest to setup.
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Pudge
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2008, 08:51:01 AM »

Quote from: "Shadowtester" date="1221998570"
You can also use VNC software to remote control the computer as well. Myself I run nothing but Linux so I just use ssh and run only console client. A KVM setup would be easier the next easiest method would be VNC setting up and using ssh or telnet with only console client again would be the most advanced and hardest to setup.

Yeah, even though I have four dedicated folders on a 4-way KVM, I still remote into them using either ssh or sshfs.  With sshfs you can mount a remote directory and through fuse make it look like a local directory.  I have a script I run that mounts the folding directories of all four computers to 4 different local directories simultaneously.  I can then fire up FahMon on my local computer and see how 5 different computers are doing at once.  FahMon even totals up the PPD for all 5 computers.  When I'm done with FahMon, I run another script that unmounts all the folding computer directories.  Then when I need to do some administration chores on the dedicated folders, I just use the keyboard, video, and mouse local to them through the KVM.  It's a very convenient setup.

My other three folders are Windows based, because I am too lazy to get the Windows only GPU2 client working on Wine.  I use Samba for those three.  I can't wait for Stanford to get the native Linux GPU2 client working.

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dwjj
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2008, 01:04:31 PM »

I monitor my windows folding boxes with VNC it's really handy software.
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spc_75
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2008, 04:35:01 PM »

Ok guys, whats the best VNC warez out there IYO? I have used PC Anywhere and Team Viewer with good results.

btw, am now in top 100 and one update off 100,000 points, yay. And until Jury gets up to speed i'm in the top three producer using only my e8400 and 8800gts 512. my 24hr average still hasn't leveled due to power problems killing WUs where i live but when it does it'll still be <1/2 of 2nd position. Maybe i should build another rig... :-D
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Shadowtester
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2008, 04:59:25 AM »

In Linux I just use the built in remote desktop software however in WindowXP I use UltraVNC not sure if its the best but it works well for me and if your connecting to another Ultra VNC client then it also has a built in file transfer feature which works pretty well also.
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dwjj
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2008, 09:59:53 AM »

I'm using RealVNC. It's free and works well. What I like is sitting at home in bed, logged on to my work Linux machines, being almost as productive as in the office lol
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