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jinu117
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« on: January 22, 2003, 01:57:07 AM » |
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I've just gone full blast on silencing my new case (cooler master ATC-201). Chagned all the fans to Vantech Stealth, got Zalman CNPS5700D-Cu cooler and replaced the fan with Vantech stealth running at full speed. Got Vantec Nexus NXP-201-SL fan controls, lowered northbridge fan speed to minimum, Paxmated the case, Antec True power PSU (not the best choice, I would have gone Zalman if I knew what I was getting into). The rest of component is carry over from SS51G (heavily modded with gromets all over, paxmate, Vantec fan, 40mm PSU mod, grill cut)... and to my surprise, the new machine is half as noisy as SS51G. While running cooler. (MB temp 25, CPU temp 41 at idle... 25/53 at full load for 1 hour). If you are absolutely into keeping the noise down, I do recommed against SFF at this point. (The primary reason to change over at time was lack of sound and I/O conflict I noticed with usage of PCI slot) But prepare to spend big $$$ (the whole mod would cost about $75-150 more than comparibly modded shuttle) SFF still has special place in my heart though... when it matures a little more, I know I will be getting one for my car and my home theatre system  |
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jinu117
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2003, 01:57:07 AM » |
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For the quiet PC... SFF is not quite there yet.
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mudboy
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2003, 08:14:55 AM » |
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You're basing your statement on experiences with a SINGLE, known-to-be-not-so-quiet SFF PC. I can assure you that SFF and Quiet PC's CAN and DO go hand-in-hand in many (but obviously not all) cases (no pun intended). Of course, anyone can build a quiet & cool running "large" system, it takes a certain level of mental instability to want to do the same thing to a SFF PC. And, yes, I'm talking about myself there.
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Kryptonic
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2003, 09:50:24 AM » |
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I have to agree, my SS51G is so silent u cannot tell its on, that is the truth!!!!
I have a passive cooler on my ti4200
a ADDA 40mm Silent fan on the PSU using o/b psu fan speed (runs @ 6v constant)
and a silent 80mm YStech on my case
i use SpeedFan to monitor the main system fan.
The HDD is a Barracuda IV - silent drive i.e. u cannot hear it spinning, and u can only just hear it write....
i am very very happy with my SS51G and how silent it is... finally a PC i can leave on 24/7 \o/
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jinu117
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2003, 11:10:08 AM » |
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<< I have to agree, my SS51G is so silent u cannot tell its on, that is the truth!!!!
I have a passive cooler on my ti4200
a ADDA 40mm Silent fan on the PSU using o/b psu fan speed (runs @ 6v constant)
and a silent 80mm YStech on my case
i use SpeedFan to monitor the main system fan.
The HDD is a Barracuda IV - silent drive i.e. u cannot hear it spinning, and u can only just hear it write....
i am very very happy with my SS51G and how silent it is... finally a PC i can leave on 24/7 \o/
Will >> My SS51G had grills cut, Vantech Stealth (quieter than YS imo), adda 40mm PSU mod, cuda IV 80gb, NO FDD, NO CD or DVD inside, Akasa paxmated, 80mm fan has been rubber gromet mounted 80 mm fan casing has vibration absorption mold (additional to be on top of stock). Geforce TI 4200 was running at 7v fan mod speed. Still it was not SO quiet considering how much work has gone into it. I AM NOT trying to diss on SS51G. I love the small machine indeed. However, if silenece is a must, other choices are better is all I am saying... |
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2003, 11:14:14 AM » |
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Its not silent and SFF that don't mix, its high performance and silent and SFF that don't mix. The technology simply doesn't exist yet to move a lot of air quietly and reliably. You can help the problem by using heatpipes, and using speed adjustable fans, but the reality is you have to offer a minimum CFM for the hottest components someone is going to shove in there, and you have to do it reliably.
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meotsuburu
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2003, 11:31:29 AM » |
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Is the heatpipe solution of the SB51 fit to cool a P4 3.06GHz CPU? I'm pretty disappointed with the temps I'm getting with my SS51 and the stock fan. Is the heatpipe rated for any specific speed P4 sofar?
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Sonic Surfer Boy
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2003, 02:39:41 PM » |
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my ss51g is silent!
40x40x20mm papst@18dB temp-controlled by psu-temp sensor
titan@25dB with 150 Ohm rheostat and fanguardian (my guess is around 14-15 dB or so..)
passiv cooled gForce2
seagate b4
total noise is less or equal to what the silent psu's of enermax and other makes... (and then you have to add case fans and cpu fan and....to make a complete pc)
how can you say that sff is noisy no-mather what you do ?
if you dont need the hottest latest components on the market you can get your sff very silent..
mine is the most silent computer I have ever heard...
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2003, 03:08:19 PM » |
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<< mine is the most silent computer I have ever heard... >> or haven't heard as the case may be |
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Sonic Surfer Boy
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2003, 05:03:29 PM » |
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lol...
quiet is probably the word I should have used..
but its very quiet... almost silent..
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Kryptonic
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2003, 05:34:10 PM » |
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i agree, if you spend some time and money on the system u can make it silent, choose the correct hardware... i also kept an eye on temps, and tbh they are pretty damn good for a silent system....
the BEST way to make the SSF silent.......... TURN IT OFF
LOL
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klinux
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2003, 05:54:14 PM » |
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I am not sure how people defined 'silence' but I do doubt people when they say they cannot hear their PC. For my SV24, it has only one single fan in there (60 mm Vantec Stealth - no PSU or CPU fan) and yet it is as loud as a full size tower that has two or three fans (need to check).
So far, the only true silent PCs I have heard is a laptop (when the fan's not on) and the Mac Cube.
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ari
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2003, 06:25:00 PM » |
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I'd agreed to some degree.
Following have a full size completely silent PC.....(I mean completely silent....!...until I got the lights on the casing to work, I shutdown it down a few time by mistake), I've moved to a number of shuttle, size meant more to me. I've two ss40 and an SS51. The SS51 was a big move forward in terms of noise.
I have to say SFF are the way forward, I'm sure in the next 6 months the Shuttle's will be there, they will never be silent, just very quiet.....believe be there is a different.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2003, 07:39:35 PM » |
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I think theres some obvious advantages with a full sized pc... I do belive with some money and alot of dedication I could get a full Pc (highend) to run one large fan... Remember with large fans 92mm/120mm they spin slower/move alot more CFM and are also more silent. If one was to say buy a fanless 300watt p/s, and build a heatpipe system similar to Shuttles accept adopt a 92mm fan or 120mm fan one could use one large fan to pump out hot air quickly and quietly or could use a Zalman flower but exert the hot air the opposite way... This would be alot quieter then a SFF, + a full ATX case could benfit from full size and still use the Zalman GPU passive heatpipe heatsink. Id have to say Full size ATX pcs can be quieter and more silent then SFF.... maybe if they bring out an external fanless p/s for SFF or Zalman hop in bed with Shuttle to create a mini GPU heatpipe with external radiator?  |
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