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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2003, 08:58:02 PM » |
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when is the ecube commin out?
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Klas
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2003, 08:58:51 PM » |
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mercury283
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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2003, 11:43:09 PM » |
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On both sides of eh EG65, you’ll immediately notice the plexiglass exterior. Notice how there are no ventilation holes included on either side of the box. This is a change from the gBox which had an array of holes to help reduce machine temperature. This was initially somewhat of a concern as I was putting the machine together, but as you’ll soon see, it became a non-issue rather quickly.
if there are no side intake holes then where does the air enter the case? |
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Adam
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« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2003, 03:21:13 AM » |
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Mercury - Good question. The underside of the case does feature some ventilation holes in the front (similar to newer Shuttle XPC's). Otherwise, there don't appear to be any other areas for air intake except the XBlade. This "fan" seems to expel air, but may also provide some air in-take as well.
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jeffsu
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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2003, 04:24:44 AM » |
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My friend and I recently bought a pair of ecubes and radeon 9800 pro cards to go with them. My friend's box will barely work with anything to do with 3d. It crashes almost seconds into it. Mine on the other hand, will last about half an hour before it either freezes or shuts down. I am, however, using a 5400 rpm drive which leads me to believe that its either an over heating issue or a power issue.
I'm leaning towards the heat issue because the heat sink and fan of the radeon is blowing directly at the side of the case no more than 1/2 away. Does anyone have any ideas on what can be wrong with our systems? I was thinking about drilling holes on the side of the case next to the radeon heat sink, but I'm not sure if that will help any. Also, the air flow by the case fan/turbine seems pretty weak...
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Ackatack
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« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2003, 11:38:07 AM » |
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If you think it's a heat issue, test out your hypothesis by leaving the case open while you game. If you're right then this should help immensily. If you're wrong, then at least you won't regret screwing with your case.
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Huggybear
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« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2003, 01:07:33 PM » |
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Originally posted by: jeffsu
My friend and I recently bought a pair of ecubes and radeon 9800 pro cards to go with them. My friend's box will barely work with anything to do with 3d. It crashes almost seconds into it. Mine on the other hand, will last about half an hour before it either freezes or shuts down. I am, however, using a 5400 rpm drive which leads me to believe that its either an over heating issue or a power issue.
I'm leaning towards the heat issue because the heat sink and fan of the radeon is blowing directly at the side of the case no more than 1/2 away. Does anyone have any ideas on what can be wrong with our systems? I was thinking about drilling holes on the side of the case next to the radeon heat sink, but I'm not sure if that will help any. Also, the air flow by the case fan/turbine seems pretty weak...
He has a very good point, Also if your temps do stay high with your cover off my first spot to look would be under the Heat sink, make sure you didnt put to much thermal grease or paste down (too much actually makes a thermal barrier). |
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BlueMax
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« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2003, 09:18:04 PM » |
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That's the problem I had with my Shuttle SK41G. Heat shutdowns.
The shim was causing seperation AND I was using too much grease. After removal of both, all worked perfectly.
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Huggybear
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« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2003, 08:40:51 PM » |
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I purchased and E-cube
2.4 northwood
1GB Kingston ram
120 GB WD hard drive
samsung CDRW
Geforce 4600 Ti
I have since pulled my card and sold this computer to my friend at work. Why would I do this you ask?
1. Mainly the computer ran around 56-58c on the cpu after a long period of gaming (outside temp was 65-70c)
2. The back side of the computer around the power supply was burning hot to the touch
The main reason why my E-cube ran so hot was my graphics card pumping nothing but heat into the case. After I pulled it out the computer ran really cool . I never did have any problems with the computer locking up on me i just feel that much heat is going to fatigue stuff and make it fail sooner. The E-cube was a very nice setup up and the case is awsome and very well designed and easy to put stuff in and take out. It just didnt fit my criteria on it had low noise which i wanted but it came at the expense of high heat which I don't want.
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hoogs
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« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2003, 09:45:56 PM » |
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Mine is also running around those temps with a full load, but Im making some mods to the case and hopefully I can lower them about 10 degrees which would make me happy.
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Funkdealer
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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2003, 12:54:42 AM » |
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I have the same case. What kinds of mods are you thinking about?
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hoogs
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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2003, 02:43:46 PM » |
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Pretty basic to start at least............Im making holes in the side of the case next to the video card so the hot air can escape. And on the other side Im going to put fan/fans, havent decided yet, maybe just one 80mm fan. I think those two things will help alot.
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ramzeva
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« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2003, 02:52:58 AM » |
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Does ATI Radeon 9800 type cards really work on this machine with a 220 WATT power supply? also is there any way to upgrade the power supply even if swapping the guts with another (if the PS casing is propriotory)
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careyd
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« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2003, 02:36:46 PM » |
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Add me to the ones who simply love this case and bought it on the strength of this review.
I just configured the following:
Pentium 4 3.0C
Geil PC3200 DDR RAM (2x512MB)
Seagate 120GB Barracuda Hard Drive
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro OEM (newegg) [not AIW version]
[the AIW version requires a 300W PS, this case has 220W and AMS says this card should work fine]
Gigabit Ethernet NIC
Pioneer DVR-106 DVD-R/RW+R/RW/CD-R/RW
Problem:
Heat-related crashes of video card...shuts down with an ATI driver error after a few minutes in Call of Duty
(the system is completely clean and fresh installed: Win XP Home SP1, ATI Catalyst 3.9 drivers, and Call of Duty)
Running with the side panel near the video card off the machine seems to keep it from crashing, but is impractical and lets more noise out too.
Not sure the best way to proceed. Really love the looks of the case, think it's one of the sexiest mini-LAN party boxes out there, but I gotta get it stable or it's all for naught.
I'm trying to get motherboard monitor up-n-running but only 1 of the 3 sensors seems to be delivering a usable temp, and I don't know if it's the CPU or the case temp. I'm using a digital thermometer to take incident readings in the case and things are pretty warm. Like 67.8C near the video card heatsink.
I'd hate to muck up the good looks of the case by mounting a side fan--either externally blowing on the video card, or by drilling vent holes for the video card and mounting a side exhaust fan on the opposite side, but I gotta find some sort of elegant way to get the video card cool, and case temps down.
Any others have ideas/input?
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Funkdealer
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« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2003, 03:26:54 PM » |
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I drilled holes in the side panel next to the agp slot and added a 80mm fan on the other side to cool the cpu. Once I did that I didn't have any more problems with my video card crashing but this came at cost. What was a loud machine became even louder.
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careyd
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« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2003, 05:21:32 PM » |
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I just wanted to do the responsible thing and follow up by letting everyone know that while I still feel the heat is too high in my case, I solved the Call of Duty crashing problems. It was a result of an ATI Driver bug. After applying the ATI Hotfix all is well. Took the machine to a LAN party saturday night and played for hours and hours. Took the left side panel (graphics side) off half-way through the night. NOT because of any crashing, but just because I saw the heat looked high in my opinion.
Meanwhile, I'm about to contact AMS to see if one of the vented side-panels from the gBox will also fit this case. This would allow me to simply purchase one of these and have a professionally-drilled side panel without having to do it myself (at risk of getting it wrong)
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Ackatack
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« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2003, 06:05:14 PM » |
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Nice to hear; let us know if that side fits.
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ChaosInAustin
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« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2003, 08:34:18 PM » |
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I just got the black version of the EG65D.
This is my first SATA hard drive, and am running into a snag on installing it.
BIOS sees the drive, now I need to format it. Maxtor's tech support says to boot of my XP Pro disk, hit F6, then install the SATA drivers from the motherboards makers driver disk.
Anyone know what drivers or what folders these are in so I can copy them to a floppy and install from there.
This seems like a simple step, but I am missing something.
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Jack
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« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2003, 03:49:42 AM » |
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I personally don't like the handle and too much plastic on the case.
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rickcain
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« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2004, 02:26:31 PM » |
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I personally don't like the handle and too much plastic on the case.
I recently purchased the black version and promptly removed the handle and plexiglass on the sides. The case looks much better and has very good air flow. |
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careyd
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« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2004, 02:41:26 PM » |
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well if you pulled the sides off I would imagine it would have good airflow. I do that and mine has good airflow too.
Only thing is, at that point it's not a case anymore, it's an open frame.
also, it's pretty noisy that way, to say nothing of having your components exposed.
Those who don't like plastic, that's fine, but isn't the handle and the windows the major selling points of this case?
I mean, if you prefer windowless metal, follow the crowd and buy another shuttle.
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careyd
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« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2004, 02:44:52 PM » |
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Nice to hear; let us know if that side fits.
Unfortunately, AMS hasn't been real helpful. I got no response for several weeks and finally called somebody in sales instead of tech support. Then I got some attention. Talked to a nice guy named Jack who informed me that YES, the side would fit, but NO, he wouldn't sell me one. Says they're out of stock and not gonna make any more. Sheesh. |
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Funkdealer
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« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2004, 06:58:08 PM » |
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I have a side vented panel that I am not using if you want it. The only problem is that the curve on the top of the panel faces in instead of out.
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lmmario
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« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2004, 10:44:39 PM » |
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Hello,
I was wonderig if these cases support other motherboards like the Abit IC7-G Max II.
Thanks.
- John-David Dalton
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careyd
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« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2004, 10:52:18 PM » |
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no. it's proprietary small form factor, nowhere near room for an atx board.
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