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« on: March 08, 2004, 05:34:45 PM » |
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Would you switch to apple?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2004, 05:34:45 PM » |
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Just curious. I have looked into several times but never did it. I am again looking into it. Cost is huge to jump into apple as none of your apps and hardware can be pulled over (other than monitor, maybe ram, and a second hdd). Plus not too mention the enormous learning curve for the new os and applications under it.
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2004, 05:43:46 PM » |
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Switch to apple as my sole pc platform?? Probubly not. Use it beside my existing windows, linux, sun sparc, and other systems? You bet your bottom dollar I would.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2004, 06:13:42 PM » |
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If I could sell all of my PC hardware at one time, I'd switch and not look back.
I had a chance to play with a 2ghz G5 for a little while at Microcenter a couple of weeks ago, even opened it up poked around inside...fantastic quality and engineering!
However, the software is where Apple really gets it...the OS is head & shoulders above anthing from M$.
I would be in hog-heaven using Final Cut Pro...for me, that alone would be worth switching completely. (iLife is pretty cool too)
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2004, 06:16:17 PM » |
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Probably not ($$$$), but I would dump WinXP for OSX if available.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2004, 06:38:10 PM » |
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I was about to say "no" but after i have started convert an S-VHS tape to DVD and heard that that's Apples strength i would try one out for a week to see if it's any better then my rig now? Using Pinnacle Studio 9 for editing but Intervideo WinDVD Creator 2 for capturing (Yes hw is Pinnacle PCTV Stereo) because Pinnacle Studio 9 captures so baddly and Intervideo WinDVD Creator 2 is slow in editing + crashes so the best would be if Pinnacle and Intervideo made this program into one.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2004, 11:02:53 PM » |
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Apple just doesn't do anything better that I'm interested in. At this point I only use my PC for email, web surfing, and gaming. I can't see transfering the thousands of email messages over to an imac or whatever when I can't buy that many games. The proprietary nature of Apple hardware really bothers me as well. I love to tinker occasionally and I just can't do that with an Apple.
What would be interesting is how the rise in consoles and the loss of PC gaming affects Apple vs. PC sales.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2004, 11:27:12 PM » |
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do i really need to answer this one?
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2004, 11:34:19 PM » |
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I knew you would kick in trunks  . I am been mulling around the ARS apple threads to get some info. I am very close to deciding if I am going to take the plunge or wait until November and call it my BD/X-mas present. I want to start cheap which in Apple means a little older. I have been looking into the iBook G3 series (clamshells). However, they are like crazy expensive even on Ebay. $600+ for these older systems.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2004, 12:51:54 AM » |
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My god the resale value of Macs on ebay are so HIGH! its hard to find a good cheap mac  but when you own one it feels good and you realize why so many Apple users are the way they are
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2004, 01:05:57 AM » |
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Get an iMac on ebay, or get an eMac new. they aren't portable but they should be either cheaper (iMac used) or faster with more RAM and HD (eMac new) for only a few hundered.
I don't know if I would switch. I don't really like the interface all that much, nost sure if I could get used to it. I don't like that they make stuff that isn't that old unsupported so you have to buy new (like making olderish systems not compatable with newer OS's). Hardware and software is very scarce for them too.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2004, 01:07:32 AM » |
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Going back to MTP’s original question, the correct answer for me is “perhaps.†For normal tasks like word processing, spreadsheets, and the like; Apple is like working with the final production version of the code – you know the one with all of the bugs fixed. The same goes for the OS.
Where it gets interesting is in traditional large-scale data processing applications. Large databases and unattended data collection are not Apple’s strength. Their strength is on the desktop. The package selection is very limited for the Apple in my areas of interest. Almost everything is PC/Win only. In fact more of it is available in Linux than Apple.
I’ve always had a soft spot for Apple ever since my first microcomputer, an Apple ][ with integer BASIC and 48k RAM.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2004, 03:15:44 AM » |
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It would be fun to play arond with a Mac, but what I really look forward to is the day when I can switch to Linux. I havn't seen any reports of OSX being a great OS. Maybe it looks nice, but if it were as widely used as Windows I'm sure there will be plenty of Mac viruses too attacking me. The only way to I see to make a safe OS is to make it completely open so anyone can see the flaws in it. I remember Linus Torvalds comment after examining OSX, that they had done the remarkable thing of first implementing all known security problems and on top of that adding some new ones no one heard of before. But in general I have nothing against Mac. Thanks to them windows is as easy to operate as it is now. And I still think the I-mac is pretty. /Xtian
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2004, 04:42:09 AM » |
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Negative.
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2004, 08:04:07 AM » |
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Nope. I've played the limited app, high cost hardware game before. The last Mac I owned used OS 8, and I have also tried OS 10. OS 10 didn't impress me. Sure, its got a fancy interface and a Unix core, but my XP machine is just as stable and has far more software.
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2004, 09:54:27 AM » |
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Originally posted by: R Wood Going back to MTP’s original question, the correct answer for me is “perhaps.†For normal tasks like word processing, spreadsheets, and the like; Apple is like working with the final production version of the code – you know the one with all of the bugs fixed. The same goes for the OS.
Where it gets interesting is in traditional large-scale data processing applications. Large databases and unattended data collection are not Apple’s strength. Their strength is on the desktop. The package selection is very limited for the Apple in my areas of interest. Almost everything is PC/Win only. In fact more of it is available in Linux than Apple.
I’ve always had a soft spot for Apple ever since my first microcomputer, an Apple ][ with integer BASIC and 48k RAM.
My first computer was an Apple IIe clone.
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2004, 10:41:25 AM » |
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Switch? No. Use/get one? Yes, definitely. My next computer will be a Mac. Probably an used PowerMac or iBook but still a Mac. I'm interested in operating systems and computer architectures. Software isn't an issue to me as I already have alternatives to everything I use on MS Windows. I'm a Linux user, after all.
By the way, most people bragging about switching are just elitist jerks. They want to be important, they want to be a part of a small elite that think their crap smell better than ours. Jobs is almost trying to create a Mac religion. Hell, I'm sure there are some Mac users worshipping him and begging him to deliver the world of the Great Satan. You know you're dealing with hopeless zealots when they use these terms to designate their competitors and flame whoever is daring to say something against their beloved computer. I don't want to get a Mac because I want to improve the size of my wang (like many zealots seem to believe). I want one to study the alternatives to the PC platform.
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2004, 11:40:45 AM » |
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I would buy one just to program on it. I heard Mac programmers can make quite a bit of money.
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2004, 11:49:21 AM » |
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By the way, most people bragging about switching are just elitist jerks. They want to be important, they want to be a part of a small elite that think their crap smell better than ours. Jobs is almost trying to create a Mac religion. Hell, I'm sure there are some Mac users worshipping him and begging him to deliver the world of the Great Satan. You know you're dealing with hopeless zealots when they use these terms to designate their competitors and flame whoever is daring to say something against their beloved computer. I don't want to get a Mac because I want to improve the size of my wang (like many zealots seem to believe). I want one to study the alternatives to the PC platform
Damn wrawrat!! I did not realize that getting a mac would increase the size of my wang  Maybe I could use that info to persuade the wife that the cost will be worth it  I am not looking for a full switch but I am interested in getting an older ibook to play with. I also like just playinf with different hardware platforms and operating systems. Main reason I used to own a few Alpharisc systems and have 1 box running linux to play with.
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2004, 12:32:59 PM » |
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I will not - although I drool over their hardware and their software is okay, I'm with Scut - there's nothing that I want to do on a Mac that I can't already do equally well and cheaper on a PC... plus, I'm all about the context-menu... every time I've used a Mac, the lack of right click has really ticked me off!
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2004, 02:43:55 PM » |
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Definitely switch, no, but using a Mac *and* a PC, side by side, would be great  I too drool over Mac hardware, and OSX is nice too, but I don't think it's better than XP - both are good OSes. I wouldn't switch to Apple without keeping my PC because of the lack of game support on Apple systems (I'm a hardcore gamer  ), plus I'm used to work with Windows...
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2004, 02:55:00 PM » |
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Originally posted by: fall-apart I will not - although I drool over their hardware and their software is okay, I'm with Scut - there's nothing that I want to do on a Mac that I can't already do equally well and cheaper on a PC... plus, I'm all about the context-menu... every time I've used a Mac, the lack of right click has really ticked me off!
PC Right click = Apple key + click Dumb one button mice. ~X
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2004, 04:14:07 PM » |
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What's a wang?
...don't answer that...
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2004, 07:56:09 PM » |
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Nah. Hardware and software is too scarce for my taste
Like trying to get a $pare p$u for a mac...
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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2004, 08:39:17 PM » |
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Originally posted by: ScutMonkey What's a wang?
...don't answer that...
A wang is a... o, DON'T answer it.
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