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Falsk
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« on: March 29, 2004, 12:48:47 AM »

Hi

Does anybody have a solution for a concave chipset on a SN85G4?
It looks like the edes are higher than the rest of the chip.
My temps are going crazy.. 68 C at load.. no OC, no nothing
Ive changed to a Zalman NB47 with the same result..

The paste in the middle of the profile is something ive put on myself.. the edges are from the chipset.
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Falsk
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2004, 12:48:47 AM »

Concave chipset
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DickH
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2004, 01:01:18 AM »

get sand paper and sand it until its even,
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Falsk
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2004, 02:03:23 AM »

Yeah.. could do that.. but i would like to keep my warranty
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richieroro
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2004, 02:56:05 AM »

ya wetsanding the chipset would be the best method....

but if ur not willing to do that, then first i would make sure that it's the chipset that's uneven and not the chipset cooler itself (im not exactly sure how flat the NB47 is out of the box). if it's the chipset that's the problem, then all you can really do without wetsanding is just use more thermal grease....
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2004, 03:12:19 AM »

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Originally posted by: Falsk
Hi



Does anybody have a solution for a concave chipset on a SN85G4?

It looks like the edes are higher than the rest of the chip.

My temps are going crazy.. 68 C at load.. no OC, no nothing

Ive changed to a Zalman NB47 with the same result..



The paste in the middle of the profile is something ive put on myself.. the edges are from the chipset.


Send a private message to Insulglass and ask him about his sanding kits.  Tell him about the severe curviture problem.  If you promise to display full results including temps before, after and ambient he may let you take my place for a free kit.  Only may, can`t make a promise on his behalf but paste the following message in to him.

Message to Insulglass:

Whilst I did not and will not be taking up your offer I thank you for your efforts.  I wonder if you would consider allowing Falsk to take my place.  His die has a severe curviture problem and he really does have a better case for improvement.  Please feel under no obligation to do this, but consider the issue at least.  I have explained that full results would have to be displayed.

Steve

 
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Falsk
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2004, 08:44:12 AM »

Hi Reider

First of all, thanks for a VERY generous offer, nice to see that there are ppl like you outthere
But.. i have to thank no. I live in Denmark, EU, and im sure thats too far away. Besides i dont want to remove my warranty on the board.
I could RMA my Shuttle.. but the dealer said that it would take 2-6 weeks.. and i CANT be without an computer for that long

Could i use some sandpaper on the profile? I know it wouldnt give me as good an result.. but everything is better right now.. could try wit a medium sized rock..
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insulglass
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2004, 07:31:32 AM »

IMHO...  you always need to work with the sink FIRST.  That's not to say that the chipset may not have problems, but 9 times out of 10, it is the sink.  The reason being - chips are manufactured to much higher tolerances than heat sinks.  While there may certainly be some concavity on chips, this effect is far more likely to be minimal in nature compared to the potential concavity or convexity of sinks.

I can see a couple of issues immediately form your picture.  First, the heat sink is anodized aluminum.  Going to a copper sink will provide better thermal transfer.  Secondly, I do not recommend that your sinks be anodized.  This is a form of corrosion protection that really isn't needed for a heat sink; in any case, aluminum will for a protective layer of Al2O5 immediately on contact with air.  A sink that is 100% anodized is almost always an extruded aluminum shape - that is, not milled to exacting tolerances.

If it were me, I would focus on the following issues:

1)  Replace with a copper heat sink if you can find an economical choice.
2)  If not, remove the anodizing from the bottom of the heat sink.
3)  Lap the sink to remove the possibility of not being flat.
4)  Use a quality thermal compound.  I personally prefer Arctic Silver 5, but there are some other good ones available.
5)  If the above combination does not help, only THEN consider lapping your chipset.  Thsi si obviously a drastic step and should be approached with caution.

Actually, I DO have a vendor in Denmark that resells my kits.  Try www.webconsult.dk and search for "lapping kits".  Please feel free to email me with any questions that you might have.

Dave
insulglass@easypckits.com



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richieroro
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2004, 10:58:44 AM »

this article is why i say you should try wetsanding the NB
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Yakboy
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2004, 11:20:33 AM »

more goop on the chipset? Don't suppose it will work as well as nearly flat contact but it's got to be better than air.

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