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« on: April 12, 2004, 09:47:53 PM » |
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Ok Here's the problem. After Installing Windows XP Pro SP1 I am having a few CD-RW problems. CD-RW is Teac CDW58E. It's a 8x/8x/32x drive. The maximum read speed detected is only 8x instead of 32x. I have tried the VIA 4in1 Bus Master IDE Driver and it turns out the same as the original driver that comes with WinXP. To make it more dubious, the Nero CD-DVD Speed test utility confirms that the CD drive can run up to 32x in the same OS installation, but nevertheless, when copying a CD in Nero6 it only reads at 8x and displays the speeds up to 8x. One more problem is that Nero info tool says the system ASPI configuration is corrupted. I installed the latest Adaptec ASPI layer and it still remained corrupt according to Nero Info Tool. Another issue is the one i've seen other people had too and it's about CD-Label not being updated when CDs changed. Windows Explorer only remembers the first disc that was inserted and even if the drive is empty it still displays the label of the first disc inserted after booting. I have an "old" Windows XP Pro installation without SP1 and none of these problems occured there, everything still works fine there but on this clean new XP SP1, i cannot get it to work. All the drives are cofigured properly, HD is at DMA mode 5 and the CDRW is at MultiwordDMA mode 2 the same as in the "old" XP. Does anyone have any ideas on how to sort this out?
System is somewhat old, here's the config:
Abit KT7A-RAID (VIA KT133A)
AMD Athlon 850
320MB PC133 SDRAM
Maxtor 40GB 7200
Teac CDW58E
SB Live 5.1
NIC
etc etc
Bottomline: Everything works fine in a WinXP Pro, but in a new clean Win XP Pro SP1 I can't get rid of these CD problems a explained above. Thanks for any help.
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bttp
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2004, 09:47:53 PM » |
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CD-RW Speed Detection
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bttp
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2004, 10:06:18 PM » |
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Forgot to mention the this new Win XP PRO SP1 is on a primary partition NTFS, and the "old", working Win XP Pro is on a secondary partition FAT32 file system.
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OLIRC
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2004, 05:03:27 PM » |
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Have you checked VIA's site and tried newest possible chipset driver or maybe the one they recomend for older hardware?
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bttp
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2004, 08:41:18 PM » |
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Well I haven't checked because I assume that the latest updates only refer to newer chipsets and since this chipset (KT133a) is like more than 2 years old, they don't update it anymore. Besides the drivers I use work fine under WinXP without SP1 and Win2K SP4 etc. Anyway there's been another problem with CD burning. I'm having buffer underruns now, since my CDRW doesn't feature BURNProof. It managed to destroy 3 out of 5 CDs, I've burned on this new XP installation. I think I had maybe one or two buffer underruns EVER and I never had buffer underruns out of the blue, like this. So i really think I'll have to get rid of this XP SP1 and go back to original release or even Win2K because it just doesn't work, and noone seems to have any ideas about how to get it intact. Thanks anyway to the suggestion and everyone feel free to give any suggestion that you can think of  Thanks again |
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2004, 09:06:31 PM » |
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Drivers for VIA chipset is constantly updated so as i said you can allways try a newer driver then you use now even on this dinosaur  or maybe as i forgot have you checked if there are any newer firmware for your burner as it can solve this problem you're having. |
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2004, 11:30:16 PM » |
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Yes, well I'm not sure if it's worth the fuss. I'll go get the latest VIA 4-in-1 drivers and if that doesn't do, I'll try to reinstall the OS from scratch and if THAT doesn't do it I'll just go back to the original WinXP Pro release without the Service Pack. Before that i'll try to manually replace the IDE drivers files to the ones that work under the OS that works (mentioned above). I wonder if this has something to do with the NTFS. btw I like the user/groups privilege administration under win2k better than in winXP. In winXP you cannot "fine tune" the user rights/privileges. I'm aware that it's not essential to most users but I personally like to have that option.
Thanks anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2004, 05:09:07 PM » |
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Well, looks like VIA 4-in-1 4.45 resolved the speed detection, at least for now it reads correctly in Nero6 at 32X. There's still the (non)refreshing of the CD problem in Windows Explorer and corrupted ASPI configuration. |
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2004, 05:31:10 PM » |
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A big thankyou to Olirc should be in order for his single handed solving of this difficult issue. It would be apprecited I'm sure.
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2004, 09:54:18 PM » |
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Ahhh  i'm here to help |
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2004, 10:27:12 PM » |
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Well guys don't get too carried away just yet Still I'm having those weird buffer underruns out of the blue, from time to time. Now, regarding that I went to the Services management console and I have turned off all the running services that I find unnecessary to automatically start and have running on my particular system. What do you think of that? Also there's this Windows Messenger that keeps running in the background all the time, saying it wouldn't shut itself down because it is so needed by the Outlook Express and IE. I have been using IE and outlook express for years without the windows messenger, so what's up with that? Anyway the windows explorer's failure to refresh itself upon inserting another CD (F5 doesn't help neither), is pretty annoying. Nobody seems to figure that one out. It's just one of those things that sometimes doesn't work upon installing a new OS, other times it does work nobody knows why. btw. how do I turn off autoplay? i had to choose "Take no action" option in the cd-drive properties dialog, for every listed content type. But Data CD is not listed. I have music cds, video cds, mixed content cds etc. but no Data, so it still autoruns itself upon inserting any kind of software CD. I forgot how I turned it off in the past, so if someone would care to remind me how to do it, I would be very thankful Also another little thing. I want to implenet a message forum, something like this one here at Sudhian, to a website. Where do I get the software/code for it? Any info on that? Where can I get/buy the software to run a message forum like this one for example? Thanks for everything, you guys are just too kind  |
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2004, 05:11:16 AM » |
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To remove Messenger Run this command in Start/Run: RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove And your buffer underrun problem try to dissable the built-in burning abbility by going to My Computer/rightclick cd/dvd device and go to tab:Recording and untick "enable cd recording on this drive" To disable autorun read more at http://support.mjpye.co.uk/view.php?article=3 Sudhian use Fusetalk for their forum so check out http://www.fusetalk.com |
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2004, 10:29:32 PM » |
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Thanks for the messenger tip. I assume you needed to get rid of it too I cannot remove it right now though becoz it won't shut down until i reboot so, until next reboot. Does it remove it completely or just from the startup or something? I guess I'll need to browse the web for those Windows tips like this one you gave me. It's just that I have tweaked and tweaked Windows so many times in the past and just when you think you've tweaked it to the max, the new version comes out and there it goes all over again, I have become a "sucker for defaults". I know how to enable/disable CD Recording in windows, I think I've already tried that. Although it would only be logical for it to be enabled to work properly, but you're right it's very possible that something that doesn't make sense, would be just the right thing to do. Here's the quote from the article on autoplay you pointed me to: "....Note: With this solution, Windows will no longer be notified when you insert a new CD. To make sure the correct icon and title for the current CD are displayed in My Computer and Explorer, press F5 to refresh the window." That is exactly what it does not do right now, with autoplay still turned on! F5 doesn't help. I wonder what would he have to say about that Later |
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2004, 08:12:53 AM » |
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Messenger will be removed with this tip but if you later on would have it back either visit Windows Update or download latest version and install. Have you installed an aspi layer and if not then get it from http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm and perhaps your cd/dvd drives will behave |
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2004, 09:22:00 PM » |
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Yes, I mentioned it above. I've installed Adaptec ASPI layer, but it didn't help. Still reported corrupt by the Nero info tool. I will try the one you suggest too, and see what happens. Thanks
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2004, 01:41:10 PM » |
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Yes, forceaspi installs adaptec aspi v4.6 and i have installed the latest adaptec v4.7. I remeber i have used v4.6 in the past and it worked fine, now i just got the latest version assuming that it would work at least as good as t he previous. Wrong again! hehe. Well now this v4.6 layer is running, the aspi configuration is reported in-tact, but still windows explorer does not refresh itself upon changing cd's. I guess I'll try to replace the explorer.exe executable with the older one and see if it does the trick...
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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2004, 01:43:32 AM » |
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Make sure "auto inset notification" is turned on.
I had mine off and had the same refresh problem in Windows when I changed discs.
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2004, 03:41:51 PM » |
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Yes, forceaspi installs adaptec aspi v4.6 and i have installed the latest adaptec v4.7. I remeber i have used v4.6 in the past and it worked fine, now i just got the latest version assuming that it would work at least as good as t he previous. Wrong again! hehe. Well now this v4.6 layer is running, the aspi configuration is reported in-tact, but still windows explorer does not refresh itself upon changing cd's. I guess I'll try to replace the explorer.exe executable with the older one and see if it does the trick... Later
I still use ASPI V4.6 and have found it to work best so untill i'm forced to update i'll hold on to this version |
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2004, 10:04:19 PM » |
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Yes, but where do you turn auto insert notification on in windows xp? And btw it is turned on at least for Data CDs. They all autorun on insert...
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2004, 09:08:49 AM » |
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You'll have to enable autorun to get auto insert notification to work  |
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