iDEQ 300x

[kiran_mk2]

iDEQ 300x

[kiran_mk2]

Thought I'd start a thread about the upcomming iDEQs that will be launched over the summer. So far, all I've seen is this article at the Inquirer:

Biostar readies iDEQ 300

For those too lazy to even click, the front looks more like a hifi (hopefully BIOS DVD playback will happen), the case has prewindowed sides and the cooling system has got air ducts installed.

I think the 1st picture has been mirrored or it would suggest that the agp/pci slots are at the back right instead of back left.

[kiran_mk2]

Here is another article from THG: deffinately very weird - the front half of the unit lifts up on a hinge to rveal the insides. The pci-X slots are now on the right hand side of the case and there seems to be a large fan at the front of the system blowing air through the heatsink and through ducting towards the exhuast. The external 3.5" bay has been shifted to th left and turned vertical. The hard drives sit side by side lengthways towards the top of the case.

tom's article  

[albedo]

If this is where Biostar is going, I guess my next machine won't be an IDEQ. I really wish some manufacturers would recognize the value of SFF as a work computer, not a hobby computer. I have a job to do, and BS clear panels, dumb ass blinking lights, dog walking attachments and the rest of the dreck don't do it for me, infact they get in the way. Just give me a freaking quiet, small, powerful machine. Preferably one that looks like it was designed by a real industrial designer, not a high school shop student in love with plastics.
I love the THG quote "Cases that look like a BMW". If BMW has EVER made a @#$% car with a @#$% GLOWING BMW logo then Dubwa is a @#$% Rhodes Scholar! What that quote should probably say is "Cases that look like a cheap kit car body, with the drivetrain of a BMW stuffed inside".

Arghh! And to think, I was hoping for a new Biostar to take for my Autodesk conference presentation (and move the 200n to live music recording duties). I guess I stick with the 200n for now. Bummer.

Gordon

[Clashman]

Frankly, I like it. If they get an AMD version, I'm sold. I understand the desire for professional SFFs, but for the most part, I don't think that's the market that they are overwhelmingly appealing to right now, (although I'd be happy if they did ditch the clear "windows" on the side).

[bonemage87]

I dont know about you albedo,

This case looks really elegant and well made to me.  The interior looks much better mapped out compared to the 200V I have right now.  The front is also very slick, if the onboard sound is greatly improved, looks like this could double as a very nice stereo.  If you ever opened up your Ideq, you would know the cooling and design were lacking a little in the 200 series.  The only gripes I have with the 300 is the PCI and AGP slot are still cramped, and the AGP slot should have switched places with the pci so it could breath if you have a pci card in.  I wonder why you still hang around the forums if you do absolutely no modding to your pc?  Interesting.

Just my 2 cents

[albedo]

bonemage87,
I wasn't under the impression that this was a modders site, but a SFF site. I don't spend my money on lights, and clear sides, and other such 'useless' (to me) stuff. I want a small machine, easy to carry to a client's office to demo AutoCAD and the like, but also with more power and less cost than a laptop. I need something to take to a conference for a presentation. And I want to use one for recording live band performances, where a bunch of blinking lights and neon is a distraction if it isn't part of the light show. SFF gets me that. However, the SFF manufacturers seem to not realize that the POTENTIAL market for SFF machines is much larger if you offer a more professional option, as well as an enthusiast option for the modding types. It seems just about everything new recently is clear sides and blinking lights, and perhaps speed tweaks that gamers love, but I can't afford to loose a 6 hour render in the middle because of a system crash like an overclocked gamer can.
My only point, and it is one expressed from frustration, is that SFF is a better answer than the crappy tower boxes offered by Dell and the rest of the world, but currently they are all marketed to a segment that plays with them, rather than working with them. I would like to see more 'mainstream', if you will, SFF machines, with clean lines that look good in a professional office, no blinking lights, quiet and great performance. It doesn't seem like that much to ask. At Autodesk University last year, there was quiet a lot of interest, but not when the only options are full of gimicks.

Best,
Gordon

[YoungBuck]

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Originally posted by: albedo
bonemage87,

I wasn't under the impression that this was a modders site, but a SFF site. I don't spend my money on lights, and clear sides, and other such 'useless' (to me) stuff. I want a small machine, easy to carry to a client's office to demo AutoCAD and the like, but also with more power and less cost than a laptop. I need something to take to a conference for a presentation. And I want to use one for recording live band performances, where a bunch of blinking lights and neon is a distraction if it isn't part of the light show. SFF gets me that. However, the SFF manufacturers seem to not realize that the POTENTIAL market for SFF machines is much larger if you offer a more professional option, as well as an enthusiast option for the modding types. It seems just about everything new recently is clear sides and blinking lights, and perhaps speed tweaks that gamers love, but I can't afford to loose a 6 hour render in the middle because of a system crash like an overclocked gamer can.

My only point, and it is one expressed from frustration, is that SFF is a better answer than the crappy tower boxes offered by Dell and the rest of the world, but currently they are all marketed to a segment that plays with them, rather than working with them. I would like to see more 'mainstream', if you will, SFF machines, with clean lines that look good in a professional office, no blinking lights, quiet and great performance. It doesn't seem like that much to ask. At Autodesk University last year, there was quiet a lot of interest, but not when the only options are full of gimicks.



Best,

Gordon

 Clearly these IDeqs   are for the show   they are shown at-I doubt production   IDeqs  will have   see-through   side panels, get a grip dude, this is  for  show only.

[SharkGill]

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If you ever opened up your Ideq, you would know the cooling and design were lacking a little in the 200 series

200 series cooling is one of the best in market./shrug

[bonemage87]

Albedo,

I understand where your coming from, but like YoungBuck said, I'm also sure they will have a non-gamer version of the 300 also, as of yet, they have only been showing off their two gamer models (both of which look vastly different), to increase hype.  

SharkGill,
It may as well be one of the best sff cooling in the market, but it still doesn't cut it for Oc'ers or stability connoisseurs.  IE; no intake fan!  I agree with one of Albedo's previous posts:  "Personally I don't believe there is any way the skark gill intake holes provide as much intake area as the PSU and case fans provide exhaust area, and a basic tenet of venting that I am famiair with from architecture is to have at least equal vent area if not more intake"

Thanks guys,
Marcus

[zalman]

The 200NB added a whole bunch more holes so that they go all the way up the side panel...

Anyway, I don't see the need for *intake* fans.

And I thought it did well enough for cooling overclocked Athlon XP Mobile chips?

[kiran_mk2]

Another Inquirer article: Inquirer article 2