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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2004, 01:03:12 PM » |
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Originally posted by: ric
AN "ILLEGAL" POEM
I cross ocean, poor and broke, Take bus, see employment folk.
Nice man treat me good in there, Say I need to see welfare.
Welfare say, "You come no more, We send cash right to your door."
Welfare checks, they make you wealthy, Medicaid it keep you healthy!
By and by, I got plenty money, Thanks to you, American dummy.
Write to friends in motherland, Tell them 'come as fast as you can.'
They come in turbans and Ford trucks, I buy big house with welfare bucks.
They come here, we live together, More welfare checks, it gets better!
Fourteen families, they moving in, But neighbor's patience wearing thin.
Finally, white guy moves away, Now I buy his house for nothing, and then I say,
"Find more aliens for house to rent." And in the yard I put a tent.
Send for family they just trash, But they, too, draw the welfare cash!
Everything is very good, And soon we own the neighborhood.
We have hobby -- it's called breeding, Welfare pay for baby feeding.
Kids need dentist? Wife need pills? We get free! We got no bills!
American crazy! He pay all year, To keep welfare running here.
We think America darn good place! Too darn good for the white man race.
If they no like us, they can scram, Got lots of room in Pakistan.
Beautiful. That poem is SO true to the state of affairs in california. Well posted. |
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Tmagic650
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2004, 04:01:13 PM » |
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I could have collected Government welfare all my life, being born with Cerebral palsy, but I chose to work... I put in 37 years of self-supporting work before I retired at age 50  |
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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2004, 04:07:42 PM » |
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Spoken like a true hard working american |
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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2004, 04:08:28 PM » |
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And I don't get your comment on those who abuse the system. By using fraud, they are stealing us and the share of those who should get that help. You think it's okay??? Geez, gimme your credit card number and see how I can abuse you! I doubt you would find this okay. 
I might as well, I have a £5 minimum per month on my VISA and no PIN!  Im just trying to say that we shouldn't let the frauders win, by making the system ineffective for the legitimate claimers. Keep the system how it is, but have higher penalties for benefit fraud, tighter control over claims and better investigation into fraud. Quote
My solution? Restrict the access to welfare and establish a surveillance program. This will create legitimate jobs while busting those who are abusing it. They would probably save money even if they are hiring people with a good salary. Frauds are often quite important: a millionnaire was busted some time ago because he was getting 10 or 20 checks per month...
Sounds good Just make sure it doesn't affect the legitimate claimants. |
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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2004, 04:27:16 PM » |
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From a strictly economic point of view the welfare state as its existed in Europe and the United States is no longer sustainable; although the United Kingdom has made a number of key reforms that may enhance its viability.
The fundamental problem in the OECD countries is one of demographics: their populations are aging. As the populations of various OECD member states begins aging the number of workers per pensioner drops.
In the United States the number of workers per pensioner is projected to go from 3.3 workers per pensioner today to 2.1 by 2030. Germany and Japan are expected to hit the 2.1 ratio much sooner.
In the United States social security payments are projected to exceed tax social security tax revenues by 2015 or 2011. This means that the US government will have to begin raising social security taxes almost continously until 2030 to cover any shortfalls.
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« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2004, 05:38:00 PM » |
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So it's simple, we need to find ways to get people to die sooner.
Really, we need to up the SS age since people are living much longer now. It's like at 65, well everyone lives to 65 without thinking now. The probably is you can't just say "ahah, we are upping it bitches" after they paid in it all their lifes and are so close to it. The only thing you can do is have it change for those just entering the work force. So now if you are 16, the SS age for you will be say 95, which by the time they are 95 might be just as low as the problem we face now. Plus this doesn't fix the short term problem at all.
So this takes us back to making people die sooner.
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« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2004, 06:41:51 PM » |
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Darn those baby boomers! The WWII generation had too many kids that didn't give birth to enough kids to support themselves. Maybe the Catholics were right about birth control after all! As I come to this conclusion, there are too many mothers who probably should've been using birth control (you can't get pregnant on your "first" time, right?) that is preventing them from being able to work and raise children.
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