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« on: October 11, 2004, 01:25:23 PM » |
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Networks forced to broadcast Anti-Kerry film.So far the best I can see is they'll get them with the "equal time clause" in the FCC regulations. This doesn't violate McCain-Feingold in any way I can think of because they aren't officially part of Bush's campaign.
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2004, 01:25:23 PM » |
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You'd Think This Violated Some Law Somewhere...
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2004, 02:48:51 PM » |
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As Scut said, I can't see how a private individual or corporate entity can be barred from airing something like this. If they are not directly tied to Bush or endorsing him, I doubt the "equal time" thing applies. If Michael Moore paid a giant media conglomerate out of his own pockets to show Farenheit 911 on every station they own, people would look at you funny if you were to accuse Kerry as being behind it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2004, 08:45:45 PM » |
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Originally posted by: Timster..........................If Michael Moore paid a giant media conglomerate out of his own pockets to show Farenheit 911 on every station they own, people would look at you funny if you were to accuse Kerry as being behind it.
Mr. Moore released the movie before Mr. Kerry was nominated, correct ? Regardless, Mr. Kerry hasn't made any attempt to dishonor or even refer-to the President's alledged, faulty military record. The President by contrast, has approved ad messages that make attempts at directly assaulting the Senator's honor. This in itself is anti-American and dispicable... if he, President Bush Junior, is to question anyone's honor then he needs to do it face-to-face, man-to-man and not simply "approve messages". Without doing that, then in my opinion, he is assaulting no-one's honor other than his own. As for the third-party common-man however... |
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2004, 10:44:29 PM » |
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Moore did his film as part of a personal agenda against GWB. If he were to pay to get it aired, it is no reflection on Kerry , as Intuit made clear, the film was made well before Kerry was chosen.
If whoever in this Sinclair group has a personal grudge or agenda against seeing Kerry in the oval office, why are people still claiming to smell a Bush conspiracy?
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2004, 02:39:00 AM » |
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Originally posted by: Timster.........................why are people still claiming to smell a Bush conspiracy?
Because Bush Junior has in the past, " ....approved...." messages that attempt to dishonor his opponent's military record. (...and despite his own.)The man is just vehemently devisive... but, what goes-around comes-around. May history be a cruel and revealing judge. |
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2004, 03:04:42 AM » |
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The book that Kerry is trying to hide. ... 
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2004, 07:11:30 AM » |
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George Bush never authorized any commercials which talked about John Kerry's military record besides his Senate record of voting against the military funding on every issue he took part in.
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2004, 10:14:05 AM » |
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Why aren't these same liberals up in arms about the "questionable" DVD release date of Fahrenheit 9/11?
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2004, 11:26:53 AM » |
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Originally posted by: Intuit
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Originally posted by: Timster.........................why are people still claiming to smell a Bush conspiracy?
Because Bush Junior has in the past, "....approved...." messages that attempt to dishonor his opponent's military record. (...and despite his own.)
The man is just vehemently devisive... but, what goes-around comes-around. May history be a cruel and revealing judge.
Actually, no he hasn't. All attacks on Kerry's war records have been done by "independent" groups not officially affiliated with Bush. That doesn't mean Bush supporters haven't engaged in other acts outside of his campaign, just as Michael Moore and others have. Honestly, I think the movie I linked to is a bad idea and bad for the Bush campaign. If I were Bush, I'd distance myself from it as much as I could. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2004, 02:32:33 PM » |
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Maybe I am wrong on that, but it seems that I've yet to hear/see an attack-ad that wasn't ".....approved......" by George Bush Junior. I have heard attack-ads (earlier in the campaign) that attack Mr. Kerry's past activities outside-of and inside Vietnam.
But here we go talking about Bush Junior's opponent rather than about Bush Junior. (which is the whole strategy behind non-stop attacks... talk about him so you don't have to talk about yourself... and just *maybe* people won't remember how much you've destroyed this country's credibility and future (think: budget) over the past four years... how many promises you've broken and how many failures you've hidden... and continue to hide with more attacks...) What can I say... guilty is the man who assaults.
I remember a long time ago that a certain someone approached me with the intention of starting an argument. I've never been the type to come looking for trouble because it simply is never worth the trouble.
Anyway, this individual (and many of you know the type) is a little loony and will not take any responsibilities for self or there-under. The house remains a wreck, stays there ALL-DAY jobless and just flat-out refuses to do anything or take any responsibilites... and in the distant past, I (and many others) have told this person about themself. To keep a long story short, the moment this person walked out the door, I took one look at the face and started to leave. On the way out, I called this person what this person was... crazy... and lazy. When I got-out to the street and in public on the way to the car, this person followed me and started accussing me of being everything that I could possibly accuse her of being.
Needless to say, if you didn't know me and didn't know this person ? Who would you believe ?
This is the same sort of head-game that Bush Junior plays upon you all. See it, recognize it, and deal with it.. this November.
By the way... "Never argue with an idiot... they'll bring you down to their level... and beat you with experience." Which essentially, is what happens when Mr. Kerry attempts to fire-back at Bush Junior.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2004, 02:50:05 PM » |
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Originally posted by: Intuit
Maybe I am wrong on that, but it seems that I've yet to hear/see an attack-ad that wasn't ".....approved......" by George Bush Junior. I have heard attack-ads (earlier in the campaign) that attack Mr. Kerry's past activities outside-of and inside Vietnam.
But here we go talking about Bush Junior's opponent rather than about Bush Junior. (which is the whole strategy behind non-stop attacks... talk about him so you don't have to talk about yourself... and just *maybe* people won't remember how much you've destroyed this country's credibility and future (think: budget) over the past four years... how many promises you've broken and how many failures you've hidden... and continue to hide with more attacks...) What can I say... guilty is the man who assaults.
I remember a long time ago that a certain someone approached me with the intention of starting an argument. I've never been the type to come looking for trouble because it simply is never worth the trouble.
Anyway, this individual (and many of you know the type) is a little loony and will not take any responsibilities for self or there-under. The house remains a wreck, stays there ALL-DAY jobless and just flat-out refuses to do anything or take any responsibilites... and in the distant past, I (and many others) have told this person about themself. To keep a long story short, the moment this person walked out the door, I took one look at the face and started to leave. On the way out, I called this person what this person was... crazy... and lazy. When I got-out to the street and in public on the way to the car, this person followed me and started accussing me of being everything that I could possibly accuse her of being.
Needless to say, if you didn't know me and didn't know this person ? Who would you believe ?
This is the same sort of head-game that Bush Junior plays upon you all. See it, recognize it, and deal with it.. this November.
By the way... "Never argue with an idiot... they'll bring you down to their level... and beat you with experience." Which essentially, is what happens when Mr. Kerry attempts to fire-back at Bush Junior.
This is partially the problem of a "anything but Bush" strategy. You pick whatever shmoe is willing to run and you put him against Bush because "anything's better than Bush." All of the sudden all the skeletons start coming out of the closet and the dialog, which has been about Bush for four years now, shifts to the problems with this other guy. It's also because of the way the process works. The fact of the matter is, you don't need to talk about Bush because he's a known quantity. Regardless of your opinion about him, you've had four years of his performance as President front and center to evaluate. You've never had this with Kerry, which is why he's being given the full body cavity search by the media and the public. He's fresh meat. Go check out "Diary of a Political Tourist" by Alexandra Pelosi. It premiered on HBO last night and it's a fascinating look at how a candidate wins the nomination for President. Go check out "Diary of a Political Tourist" by Alexandra Pelosi. Her "Travels with George" from 2000 follows GWB's campaign against Gore and is very interesting as well. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2004, 12:12:53 AM » |
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Yes, we do know Bush Junior, and that's why it is rediculous that many of your are falling for it.
Bush is a flip-flopper so what does he do ? -- Calls Kerry a flip-flopper.
Bush is a draft-dodger so what does his support do ? -- Calls Kerry a draft-dodger.
Bush is a HUGE spender so what does he do ? -- Accuses Kerry of being a "Tax & Spend Liberal".
Bush is an inept Diplomat so what does he do ? -- Accuses Kerry of alienating allies.
Bush just doesn't have message because he's all attack and what does he do ? -- Accuses Kerry of "stands for nothing".
Bush is a big-business propenant so what does he do ? -- Accuses Kerry of being in-line with Edwards & other big-money trial lawyers.
Bush has sold-out our personal rights to terrorists (Patriot Act) so what does he do ? -- Accuses Kerry of selling-out to the UN.
Bush is disenfranchised with the voters and is extremely ignorant of all but one issue so what does he do ? -- Accuses Kerry of being disconnected from the voters and unaware of the issues.
Bush is Pessimist who ran his 2000 election campaign on "WE ARE IN A RECESSION" and so what does he do ? -- Accuses Kerry of being a pessimist who is bad for the economy.
Bush's has no economic plan and so what does he do ? -- Attack, attack, attack, attack and attack some more....
Do you see a pattern yet ?
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