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« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2004, 05:09:29 PM » |
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Umm, yeah. You're right. abortion is very damaging psychologically and often times physically to the woman. (Not to mention the main victim in abortion...the baby) But I cannot see how a woman having an injured spirit and body is a good thing. Or how does it help your argument, Vorlon? Please enlighten me.
One day you might find yourself in the same position - who knows and then, you'll probably say "right, I know now what Vorlon meant". The subject is far too delicate and complicated to discuss on a forum and in doing so, many important points get missed by those who cannot simply comprehend certain aspects of the real world. |
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iamjack
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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2004, 07:30:09 PM » |
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Sorry if I'm the one to bring up the whole "birds and the bees" issue with you Jack, but it is the act that is performed months before the abortion that feels good. You know, sex, the horizontal mambo, the hunka chunka, knockin' boots, the old slap and tickle...any of this ringing a bell?
Well it has been at least a month BG...  quote:
People want to go out and bang anything that moves...
If that were true then I'd be getting laid right now... quote:
... but then when they get pregnant, ehhh...just abort it. What the Hell...it's only a human life.
...I suppose troops must have to have a similar mentality in times of war, after all its only the 'enemy' (although it must be easier when the enemy is only afforded that title rather than that of 'human life'...) quote:
Basically there are just too many people in the world ruled by their crotch.
Amen, a sensible comment from you BG mate, I'd almost given up... but if all those people gave up being ruled by their crotches, what would they be ruled by? |
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« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2004, 11:29:50 PM » |
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...I suppose troops must have to have a similar mentality in times of war, after all its only the 'enemy' (although it must be easier when the enemy is only afforded that title rather than that of 'human life'...)
The foetus isn't shooting back. |
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« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2004, 08:41:06 PM » |
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...I suppose troops must have to have a similar mentality in times of war, after all its only the 'enemy' (although it must be easier when the enemy is only afforded that title rather than that of 'human life'...)
The foetus isn't shooting back.
Is not all life equal beneath the lord??? |
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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2005, 12:33:39 AM » |
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I really got a kick out of the 'spin' that LR did on this thread. Bump!  |
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« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2005, 09:51:38 AM » |
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Excellent news, LR! I'm glad they found her alive. I am wondering when she will be termed as a baby/ human being rather than as a 'fetus'.
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They found the baby alive and healthy. The idiot who took her (yes, it's a baby girl) is currently in a state of "condition unknown" which usually means he's getting the living **** beat out of him by police
Hmmm....sounds like a good treatment for abortion doctors too....
How dare you pick on Abortion doctors, Ballistic!! They are just doing their job! (Which happens to be murdering the unborn...no biggie right?)
A bit of a stupid post, if I may say so. I live in Holland, where you can just go to any doctor, request an abortion (usually excepted as long as the baby/fetus is below a certain age, 3 or 4 months or something) and go to any hospital and have it done. Our biggest political party is against it, pretty much all the others think it's ok. It's also legal to end your life at the hospital here if you have any form of non stop unbarable pain, including emotional pain. I tend to aprove with abortions. Yes you're ending a life. But i think it's really upto the parents and I do see a fetus as someone who is not capable of making decisions of it's own, so his mother will have the responsibility of that. If she thinks it is best that the baby will never be born, people can disagree all they want, but it's her choice and it should be accepted I think. And it isn't like abortions happen that often here either, most people have no reson for it, but like I said, if the mother wants it and is sure it is for the best I think it is alright. And about that man who cut out a baby: Sick. Put him in a cell and never release him again. |
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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2005, 10:13:43 AM » |
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And about that man who cut out a baby: Sick.
Put him in a cell and never release him again.
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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2005, 10:51:37 AM » |
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well then put her away...
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« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2005, 02:04:41 PM » |
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Thinking about it though, how is the thread relevent at all?
I cant see how it brings abortions into question at all. The baby was removed well after the latest (non-medically needed) abortion date in the UK so therefore your arguement seems to reinforce our liberal laws on Abortion LR.
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« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2005, 11:20:32 AM » |
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LR I havent read the whole thread I just want to point out 99% of prochoice people wouldnt allow abortion in the third trimester without serious health implications to the mother. THeres a difference between a baby at 3 weeks and one at 8 months
"According to Maloof, women who aren't actually pregnant are sometimes
conned into thinking they are by staff members, then billed $500 for
abortions. In cases involving women who die after undergoing botched
abortion procedures, their cause of death is sometimes falsely linked to
"pregnancy complications," Maloof said"
And show some intelligence and know this is not true, and if its happened its a very veyr rare case. These stories are something prolife advocates throw around like common place. Its ridiculous and sickening.
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« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2005, 11:24:39 AM » |
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sorry iamjack I didnt read your post first, I agree with you and tried to make that point. This pregnancy was far enough along where she couldnt have an abortion. But I honestly think most prolife people, or at least the ones I have talked to, think that prochoice people want to allow abortions anytime without thought, really sad that they beleive that though. Makes the whole issue a tough one to talk to someone about when they dont understand the other side.
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