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Navicaph
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« on: November 14, 2005, 01:07:13 PM »

Official Opteron support, our efforts so far...

Opteron 165 and 154 are supported on SN26P, SN25P, SN95G5v1/v2/v3 and the ST20G5. We'll be adding more as we finalize validation.

You guys can check out the rest of the support list here.
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Navicaph
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2005, 01:07:13 PM »

Official Opteron Support
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ABANGKL
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2005, 10:05:55 AM »

Thats a good news. Keep up the good work.
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2005, 07:04:27 PM »

Thnx Kevin, good to see the old v1 still being supported in the tests
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2005, 04:45:44 PM »

Originally posted by: Navicaph

Official Opteron support, our efforts so far...



Opteron 165 and 154 are supported on SN26P, SN25P, SN95G5v1/v2/v3 and the ST20G5. We'll be adding more as we finalize validation.



You guys can check out the rest of the support list here.



Hi Kevin,

2 Questions:

Is it possible to update the BIOSes to support CnQ power management with the Opterons?

If it is possible (and allowed), will Shuttle endeavor to do so?


Thanks.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2005, 06:09:47 PM »

Now if Turion support could be added to the s754 models...
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Navicaph
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2005, 02:01:49 AM »

Working on Turion64 support, and it doesn't look like there will be any power management with the Opteron's right now .
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2005, 01:14:01 AM »

Thread about Turion support for the SK21G
It would be realy nice if the SK21G had been a Gforce 6150 / Nforce 430 board.
Still a 25W MT Turion in this box has some real potential.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2005, 02:42:10 PM »

Would the Opteron 175 E6 stepping work on the SN95G5 v1?

Also, do the X2 support power management on the SN95G5 v1?
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Navicaph
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2005, 01:50:17 AM »

Originally posted by: FireBlade

Would the Opteron 175 E6 stepping work on the SN95G5 v1?



Also, do the X2 support power management on the SN95G5 v1?




175 should work, but I don't believe we've had the chance to test it yet. I'll double check on the power management.
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2005, 05:18:57 PM »

I have the SN26P, and ordered myself an Opteron 180, hopefully it will be within my reach shortly. I will test it as soon as I have it
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2005, 05:08:58 AM »

I'd like to know if there is an official bios for the SN85G4v3 that will properly recognize the Turion CPU...not worried about the IHS spacing as I have one from a dead CPU that I can install on the Turion anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2005, 12:19:23 PM »

I have an SN25P and can confirm that the 165's work great.  A few issues with dual core gaming that were cleared up with a microsoft hotfix.  Opteron is currently running at 2.5ghz completly stable and within ICE's ability to cool it, but that is about as high as I am willing to take it, thermally.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2005, 07:21:19 PM »

Originally posted by: Navicaph

...and it doesn't look like there will be any power management with the Opteron's right now .



Hi Kevin,

Is is a technical or political reason which prevents Shuttle from enabling power managment for the Opterons in a SN95G5?

I am curious if it is worth persuing a custom BIOS if it truely only requires a modified table as some have suggested.

Thanks.
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SgtStrider
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2005, 09:19:02 AM »

I installed my Opteron 180 today, in my SN26P. I can confirm everything is working under Windows XP Professional x64
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2005, 03:57:57 PM »

I noticed on the Shuttle Support site you listed in a previous post that the Opteron 148 Venus was not listed for the SN25P. Is this because it failed support tests or because shuttle hasn't tested that particular CPU yet? Thanks in advance...
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2006, 06:00:38 PM »

Quote from: "Navicaph" date="1131991633"
Official Opteron support, our efforts so far...

Opteron 165 and 154 are supported on SN26P, SN25P, SN95G5v1/v2/v3 and the ST20G5. We'll be adding more as we finalize validation.

I wrote a note to Shuttle tech. Support asking about CnQ support for dual-core
opterons on SN25P and never got an answer...

The problem reside in the BIOS which does not have the required ACPI PSB tables
for SMP/MC systems.

It is a real problem, since the CPU goes full power, and the fans too.
The SN25P generate a lot of noise, heat, and costs more on your power bill.

That's not what I would call 'supported', not in the 'Fully supported'
meaning at least. AMD enhanced their CPUs to burn less power but Shuttle
don't do what is needed to make it work.
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noluckjim
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2006, 06:52:25 AM »

Oh boohoo.

Turn down fan speed in BIOS controls, perhaps even underclock/undervolt if you're so inclined.  Problem solved.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2006, 06:32:29 PM »

Quote from: "noluckjim" date="1156157545"
Oh boohoo.
Turn down fan speed in BIOS controls, perhaps even underclock/undervolt if you're so inclined.  Problem solved.

You don't seem to understand. I don't want undeclocking/undervoltage, I want to be able to use the CPU up to its possibilities, as I've paid for. If I just wanted something underpowered, I'd have bought one, there's plenty on the market. And I also would not turn down fan speed without the CPU being clocked/volted down accordingly. This should be done automatiquely as ACPI spec require.

You certainly don't sleep in the same room as your PC, if you don't understand the need for power/heat/noise minimizing or maybe you'll tell me to buy ear plugs.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2006, 08:03:53 PM »

I would like to point out that Opterons for desktop 939's are NOT explicitly supported by AMD as DTRs.  Never have been since their release.  The fact that they work in standard 939 boards is something you should be thankful for.  You state that you want to run it at stock settings etc, then why the hell purchase an Opteron unless suggested to you by a friend.  The only reason I would ever suggest them to someone is for overclocking, otherwise regular parts would do.

[Edit] Frankly, if you wanted full Cool 'n' Quiet support then you should have gone with a regular Athlon 64.  Why go for an Opteron when A64 chips have been cheaper than their server counterparts for the majority of the year.  A little research goes a long way.  Perhaps you should have read up into why people were buying Opterons before having made your purchase.
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2006, 03:08:18 PM »

keep it friendly guys .. a lot of people use an opteron it would be nice if shuttle would gives us some support and enable c&q.It isnt working for a opteron 170 here anyways.Most ppl went with an opteron for their Oc,but now that the prices dropped i wish i would have gotten an 4800  8-/
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2006, 03:10:40 AM »

Apologies... perhaps this link will help those of you interested in CNQ
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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2006, 01:12:04 AM »

Quote from: "noluckjim" date="1156205033"
[Edit] Frankly, if you wanted full Cool 'n' Quiet support then you should have gone with a regular Athlon 64.  Why go for an Opteron when A64 chips have been cheaper than their server counterparts for the majority of the year.  A little research goes a long way.  Perhaps you should have read up into why people were buying Opterons before having made your purchase.

Frankly, perhaps you should go to AMD web site and read a little bit of their technical documentation about the processor you are speaking about.
Opterons dual-core have "full Cool 'n' Quiet support". Exactly the same CNQ support as X2. No ifs, no nothing. Period.

AMD Opteronâ„¢ 100 Series Processors FAQ
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_8806~85257,00.html
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Energy savings and noise reduction features are available via AMD PowerNow!â„¢ technology with Optimized Power Management (OPM). AMD PowerNow! technology with OPM is designed to adapt the performance of AMD Opteron processors based on application and end-user demand. This can reduce thermal output and can help lower the total cost of ownership (TCO) associated with electrical and cooling needs.

and on page 12 of: http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/30417.pdf

Sorry, but I don't "read up into why people are buying their CPUs" to make my choice.

And your harping on price isn't going to impress me either, at the time I bought my 165, it was cheaper than its equivalent X2 model.
I must admit not having it bought at a retail store, though, but from a grouped order. But that is entirely not the point of my original post, which was all about SHUTTLE BIOS support.
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