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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2006, 04:38:26 PM » |
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Originally posted by: Lord Raiden
do you reeally think attacking Pakistan and killing civilians is right?
Not one bit.
when they kill civilians in a country we arent at war with that is wrong,
Agreed.
if you dont hold our leaders accountable when they do something wrong,
Our gripe isn't holding leaders accountable. It's the double standard of holding one group accountable, but not the other. WELL SAID. |
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Rocky
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« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2006, 05:07:30 PM » |
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And who else would you hold accountable for a mistake of military action versus an allied country?
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2006, 11:12:42 AM » |
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Sheesh! "Faulty intelligence" again! Oh, well, they're just a bunch of rag heads, so it doesn't matter--
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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2006, 02:56:05 PM » |
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Rocky
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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2006, 02:59:50 PM » |
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I hope thats true Scut, that article is pretty shakey currently. It very well could be pakistan government trying to stop the protests in their country instead of standing up to the US. Hopefully we can find out who actually died. Any word if Pakistan was warned of the strike ahead of time or not?
Also CNN is a liberal rag how dare you link to it!!!!
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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2006, 03:25:12 PM » |
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I'm curious who passed the intel on the dinner meeting... was it through Pakistan's govn't or humint on the ground?
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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2006, 03:34:55 PM » |
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Even if we did kill terrorists, hell, let's say Zawahiri was among the dead, I think we still owe the Pakistinians an apology and hope they accept it lest we lose another ally.
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« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2006, 03:35:58 PM » |
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Bah, who needs allies when you are the Mighty 'Merican Machine (TM)....
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« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2006, 03:46:34 PM » |
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Originally posted by: lightprocess
Even if we did kill terrorists, hell, let's say Zawahiri was among the dead, I think we still owe the Pakistinians an apology and hope they accept it lest we lose another ally. I dont think anyone here really knows what back deals were going on before that strike. I haven't seen anything from Musharif so I would think they secretly had Pakestani approval for this strike regardless of what the public side is saying. Anyone here of course excludes those who have run into Trent Lott or other amazing people in the hallways in DC. Those people of course know all.  |
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« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2006, 04:45:55 PM » |
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Originally posted by: Texmaster
Originally posted by: lightprocess
Even if we did kill terrorists, hell, let's say Zawahiri was among the dead, I think we still owe the Pakistinians an apology and hope they accept it lest we lose another ally.
I dont think anyone here really knows what back deals were going on before that strike. I haven't seen anything from Musharif so I would think they secretly had Pakestani approval for this strike regardless of what the public side is saying.
Anyone here of course excludes those who have run into Trent Lott or other amazing people in the hallways in DC. Those people of course know all. ![]() Uh huh :- Pakistan anger at US attack |
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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2006, 10:54:32 AM » |
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Originally posted by: lightprocess
Even if we did kill terrorists, hell, let's say Zawahiri was among the dead, I think we still owe the Pakistinians an apology and hope they accept it lest we lose another ally. My only point was the clarify whether or not we actually killed terrorists and we did. Nothing more, nothing less. It could very well be the case that we did notify Pakistan and told them, "complain about it to pacify your muslim population and we'll take the heat" and this is all a sideshow to keep Musharef in power over there. I really don't like the fact that we're in bed with yet another dictator. I understand why, but I still don't like it. |
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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2006, 11:21:56 AM » |
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"My only point was the clarify whether or not we actually killed terrorists and we did. Nothing more, nothing less. "
Did you read that article you linked to Scut? Or just the headline of it? Its a little inconclusive to say the least. I mean there are differeing reports from the people who were there and the people who werent.
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« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2006, 03:07:34 PM » |
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The people who weren't there say 11 and the people who were say 4... at least they agree on the number 17. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle; as is said. But to add to that, one detests being the target of bombing run and the other has the serious problem of credibility. What can't be disputed, is how this threatens a valuable US resource... General Pervez Musharraf, the Pakistani president .......... However, opposition to his rule is mounting at home.
Three injured in Pakistan bomb explosion Hindustan Times, India - Dec 30, 2005 A homemade bomb exploded at a barber shop in a remote town in insurgency-wracked southwestern Pakistan, injuring three people, a regional police chief said on ...
What is really curious is that now, foreign news sources are working their way to the top Google spots. This is really a great thing as people inevitably become more informed this way. The web is *the only* way to get a somewhat international perspective.
By the way, here's another headline near the top of this Google dated only two days ago...
TERRORISM: AL-QAEDA LEADER IN PAKISTAN DETAINED |
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