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« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2006, 12:10:42 PM » |
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And yet he is still a conservative judge.... So why are you trying to blame liberals again for a bad move by a conservative judge? Cause someone he has no blood relation to is a liberal? lol
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« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2006, 12:12:08 PM » |
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Originally posted by: Rocky
And yet he is still a conservative judge.... So why are you trying to blame liberals again for a bad move by a conservative judge? Cause someone he has no blood relation to is a liberal? lol Because its the LIBERALS that are DEFENDING HIM. Do I have to draw it in crayon for you to finally read it? |
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« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2006, 12:31:00 PM » |
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So defending a Conservative, is a liberal conspiracy now... I see... totally makes sense....
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« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2006, 01:15:44 PM » |
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Even if there is an agenda to defend the judge, the case itself is sideless. As I posted already, it's a unique case that I would hope the judge devoted much time and thought to. BTW, the judge revised the sentence today to 3-10 years after he got the state to agree to treat him while he was serving his sentence, which is consistant with what his reasoning was the entire time. I think it's understandable what the judge did in the first place though. Clearly he was concerned with treatment the mentally ill convict, and I guess he figured the light sentence was the only thing that would allow some sort of rehabilitation. This, however, does sound like a much better compromise. |
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« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2006, 01:28:46 PM » |
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Originally posted by: Rocky
So defending a Conservative, is a liberal conspiracy now... I see... totally makes sense.... Run away from the truth Rocky. Its liberals in the media that are defending him. |
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« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2006, 01:29:30 PM » |
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Originally posted by: lightprocess
Even if there is an agenda to defend the judge, the case itself is sideless. As I posted already, it's a unique case that I would hope the judge devoted much time and thought to.
BTW, the judge revised the sentence today to 3-10 years after he got the state to agree to treat him while he was serving his sentence, which is consistant with what his reasoning was the entire time.
I think it's understandable what the judge did in the first place though. Clearly he was concerned with treatment the mentally ill convict, and I guess he figured the light sentence was the only thing that would allow some sort of rehabilitation. This, however, does sound like a much better compromise. a new Zogby poll goes against that level of thinking Would you strongly support, somewhat support, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose long mandatory prison sentences for convicted child rapists and molesters who have not committed previous offenses? 85% 10% 5% Would you strongly support, somewhat support, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose long mandatory prison sentences for convicted child rapists and molesters who have offended more than once? 94% 4% 2% Would you strongly support, somewhat support, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose any effort by the Vermont legislature to remove Judge Cashman from the bench because of his ruling? 69% 17% 15% The people have spoken. |
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« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2006, 01:33:01 PM » |
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So are we throwing out the part about the man having a mental handicap?
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« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2006, 01:38:14 PM » |
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Originally posted by: lightprocess
So are we throwing out the part about the man having a mental handicap? Since it wasn't able to be used as a defense, you bet. The only people claiming he is handicapped ignore the fact that the court didn't allow the defense, he invited his friend who did the same thing to the girl and have no evidence at all medically to support this charge. |
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« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2006, 02:25:17 PM » |
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Since it wasn't able to be used as a defense, you bet. The only people claiming he is handicapped ignore the fact that the court didn't allow the defense, he invited his friend who did the same thing to the girl and have no evidence at all medically to support this charge. First off, it was not used as a defense for the trial, it was used as a defense for the sentencing. Trials come in two parts, and different considerations are relevant at different parts. Secondly, yes according to the press reports I have read there was medical evidence and the judge himself believed that the man is severely mentally handicapped. Read his opinion on the case if you wish to see that fact. And finally, he did NOTHING illegal in either his original decision or his revised one. You can disagree with his sentence all you wish, but it is your opinion, not fact. Were you correct about the legality of his sentence, the state could have acted against him. They cannot, despite all the talk of impeachment. The worst that can happen is that he may not be put in that position again in the future when his term is up. |
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« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2006, 02:30:44 PM » |
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"Run away from the truth Rocky."
The truth that hes a conservative judge that started this whole problem, yet now you claim its a liberal issue? lol You guys turn pretty fast on your own, canabalism at its best!
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« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2006, 05:31:14 PM » |
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Originally posted by: Rocky
"Run away from the truth Rocky."
The truth that hes a conservative judge that started this whole problem, yet now you claim its a liberal issue? lol You guys turn pretty fast on your own, canabalism at its best! Thats right. We don't blindly defend all conservatives when they break their oath as a judge and give laughable sentences to rapists. You are right, we are completely different from liberals. Thanks for walking right into that one. |
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« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2006, 11:33:40 PM » |
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Yep, conservatives only stand by their own so long as its politically popular. They dont actually stand for their beleifs...
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« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2006, 12:39:55 AM » |
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Change 'conservatives' to 'republicans' and I'll agree with you Rocky. Seeing how they dumped Newt by stabbing him in the back was a real lesson in how the party is being run nowadays...
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