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CityK_2
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« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2007, 09:36:42 AM »

Acutally, I'm running into some very bizarre word count issues... don't know why, but its making it difficult to post.  Anyway


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When playing back XVID movies, the processor is running at 100%.  I am not sure about DVD movies - I think that it is also at 90%+  This must mean that the hardware decoding on the VIA M10000 isnt kicking in.  Any idea how to configure this?
As Shagbag pointed out:
- there is no acceleration for mpeg4 available with your chipset ...

Your not missing much anyways.  There are only two chipsets that have support (Shagbag's is one of them).  And at that, there is only one driver which supports this acceleration -- VIA's own Linux driver (which no sane person should use). ... You can't find 'mpeg4 support' in Windows or in any of the other Linux drivers.  

But here's the key thing -- "mpeg4" means a whole lot ot different things, so you might want to ask yourself just what exact aspect of mpeg4 does the VIA driver support ?  

What it comes down to is -- nothing of particular interest really.  The whole "supports mpeg4" thing stinks of buzzword marketing.  In its current state, the level of support is much to do about nothing.  Sadly, many have bought the bait .... (if you want an example, read through this  and this thread on nvnews ... if you don't want to waste your time, and I can't blame you, the short version is a bunch of nvidia customers badgering nvidia to expand their acceleration support to include mpeg4 'just like that wonderful VIA company  does' ... in other words, its a pretty altered case of reality)

Umm, where was I? Ah yes - mpeg2/DVD playback.  As Shagbag mentioned, we need to know what app your using for playback so that it can be configured to take advantage of the acceleration support in your chipset.

Speaking of your chipset -- on a console, enter this command: cat /proc/cpuinfo

I'm checking because,there was actually two versions of your board (with the only difference being the cpu). The initial one was based on the Ezra-T and the other on the newer Nehemiah.
See:
http://www.mini-itx.com/2003/02/18/first-m10000s-not-nehemiah-based
http://www.mini-itx.com/2003/02/26/via-launch-epia-m10000
http://www.mini-itx.com/2003/04/15/via-launch-epia-m10000-again
http://www.mini-itx.com/reviews/nehemiah/
of some interest from that last link is the video playback results ... although I wouldn't put too much stock in their test results other then to get a generalized ballpark guideline idea

So, now then back to mplayer testing:

In one console, run the following command:

mplayer -vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc /path_to/your_mpeg2_encoded_file

observe the cpu utilization in the other console running top

note that -vo is video out and the XvMC method is selected, and -vc is the video codec and the ffmpeg12mc library is being used

But wait! There's more!  Combine what you learned earlier/above:

mplayer -vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc -ao alsa -ac hwac3 /path_to/your_mpeg2_encoded_file_with_ac3_audio

Look at you hydran! You're a Linux wizzard you is.  You'll soon bury us all.

Enjoy.
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« Reply #76 on: January 09, 2007, 12:09:50 PM »

That's really helpful stuff, CityK_2.  I had no idea Mplayer was so configurable.  Excellent.  Thanks v. much.  CityK_2 - you ARE the multimedia man.  Wink

As to region software, I thought libdvdcss was all that was needed.  Is this not the case?
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« Reply #77 on: January 09, 2007, 09:45:09 PM »

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I had no idea Mplayer was so configurable.
Mplayer is incredibly configurable.  No, make that - Its outrageously configurable.  See:
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/man/en/mplayer.1.html
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/index.html

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As to region software, I thought libdvdcss was all that was needed.  Is this not the case?
I guess it is.  As I said, I really don't know (or care) about the region stuff.  I guess that doesn't explain hydran's observation than though, so I don't know how to account for that.  In any regards, an appropriate firmware flash, as I mentioned, would take care of all the region crap once and for all.
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« Reply #78 on: January 09, 2007, 10:26:18 PM »

...thanks for all your help, I'll work through this when I get a chance.

A small part of the reason for moving to linux is that the drive I have does NOT have region-free firmware patches (and will not either, according to those websites...)
I was hoping that linux wouldn't bother checking region status, but its probably a hardware thing, which means that I'll have to either use a different drive (unlikely), or not view the region 1 DVDs as DVDs...
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« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2007, 03:51:34 AM »

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A small part of the reason for moving to linux is that the drive I have does NOT have region-free firmware patches (and will not either, according to those websites...)
I was hoping that linux wouldn't bother checking region status, but its probably a hardware thing, which means that I'll have to either use a different drive (unlikely), or not view the region 1 DVDs as DVDs...
it sounds like libdvdcss will indeed do what you desire, however, it looks like whatever playback app your using will have to be using title decryption method.  So I wouldn't give up hope yet for your ambition.

And speaking of playback apps, you didn't mention what you initially tested with.

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I'll work through this when I get a chance.
I can already tell you that the MPEG2 acceleration test with mplayer would have failed.  Unfortunately I forgot about what I outlined here

Relevant links:
http://wiki.openchrome.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=XvMC#Mplayer
http://wiki.openchrome.org/tikiwiki/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=3

I know that mention was made about lifting the patching requirement (see: http://wiki.openchrome.org/pipermail/openchrome-users/2006-November/002332.html), but I don't know if there has actually been any submissions to mplayer about this by any of the openChrome developers.
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« Reply #80 on: March 18, 2007, 03:57:09 PM »

A few thoughts about the soon to arrive http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17505/Ubuntu-Feisty-Fawn-Desktop-Linux-Matured/ plus the director's cut from http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?threshold=5&mode=thread&commentsort=0&op=Change&sid=226973 /.  :-)
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« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2007, 08:26:13 PM »

I just hope they've got their mirrors lined up, 'cos it's going to be one hell of an install-fest on 19 April.
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« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2007, 09:35:02 PM »

I'll give it a couple of days just to let the dust die down before I give it a try.
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« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2007, 01:05:19 PM »

The new Migration Assistant looks interesting.
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« Reply #84 on: March 21, 2007, 08:05:45 PM »

I run Ubuntu!
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« Reply #85 on: March 21, 2007, 09:35:19 PM »

Edgy Eft over here !
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« Reply #86 on: March 24, 2007, 09:27:31 PM »

I have just given the beta release of Ubuntu 7.04, code name "Feisty Fawn" http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=04126 a bit of a run out and when trying a simple flash based game http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/ it managed the Flash code and installed it upon demand so that the game could run without a hitch. Now this may offend some who have issues with restricted and non-restrictedly code held in repositories  but to a simple Joe like me it just works first time without tweaking and that I think is good for the general public as a whole. Now if I and other punters can pay games, play music and videos as well as surfing via something Tor like right out of the box then two thumbs up from me and mine. I'll play again sometime soon.
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« Reply #87 on: April 04, 2007, 10:23:14 AM »

A few lines about the GNOME 2.18 as included in the latest Ubuntu Feisty beta http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/04/02/1919225 , the few lines about Seahorse caught my eye as something useful and easy to use.
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« Reply #88 on: April 04, 2007, 10:49:21 AM »

Bizarre!  I read the same article this morning on the way in to work.  Let me guess... LXer?
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