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« Reply #550 on: July 13, 2007, 07:02:47 PM »

I just signed up for a LAN next weekend.  Now I've only got a week to get this thing worthy!  There's no way I'll get the side panels done in time, but I gotta get that face on.  Then I've got some software to get installed and tweaked.  The pressure is on!  Oh, I do love a challenge!
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« Reply #551 on: July 15, 2007, 05:14:47 PM »

Hi, very nice job you did! Do you use an IDE-adapter for your laptop-drives? If yes, where can i find them?
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« Reply #552 on: July 15, 2007, 07:22:15 PM »

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Hi, very nice job you did! Do you use an IDE-adaptor for your laptop-drives? If yes, where can i find them?

Yeah, I did use an IDE adapter.  You can get them here.
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« Reply #553 on: July 15, 2007, 11:14:53 PM »

Thank you and goog luck @ the LAN  ;-)
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« Reply #554 on: July 19, 2007, 04:42:07 AM »

All of you guys have been pretty patient over the course of this project.  I know I've teased you a lot with all the 'not quite finished' pics as well.  Well, I'm still not finished, but this baby is damn close.  Just a few small details, and the side panels are pretty much all I need.

So, that being said, I finally got the face plate mounted.  I did a little creative cutting, and was able to mount it without using a spacer.  I didn't take any pics of that, because frankly it was pretty uneventful.  4 screws, and the thing was bolted in place.



















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« Reply #555 on: July 19, 2007, 05:09:17 AM »

That's a work of art.  Excellent job.
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« Reply #556 on: July 19, 2007, 06:08:57 AM »

That is amazing!

What are you going to do now? Wink
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« Reply #557 on: July 19, 2007, 06:24:58 AM »

Well, I've still got to get the side panels designed for this thing.... that's a decent sized project itself... but after that, I'm not really sure.  I think I'm just going to game!
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« Reply #558 on: July 19, 2007, 07:06:13 AM »

For the side panels, I have found an excellent way to etch logo's, etc for the various custom rigs we do at my store.

1: Get a fairly thick piece of card/paper or whatever, and draw on the logo/stencil that you want.
2: Cut out the logo/stencil very carefully with a stanley knife. You want to keep the card, not the insides.
3: Gently rub some sandpaper (different grades give different effects, so its up to you) over your newly made stencil until you get the desired opacity
4: Ensure the sanded side of the window is on the inside, and point some LED lights onto the edge of the window. This will make the etching "glow"
5: Sit back and enjoy the bling Cheesy

-Ash
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« Reply #559 on: July 19, 2007, 11:24:39 PM »

I was wondering if you could specify your water cooling setup? I'm planning one myself, but am not sure if it's the right way to go, since it seems that I have some airflow problems (no cover reduces temp by 3-4 degrees C in load).

What temperatures did you had before water cooling and how are they relative to your new temps?
(I'm talking about CPU temps)
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« Reply #560 on: July 20, 2007, 04:34:36 AM »

great product, glad too see it is almost done, so at that LAN, plan on using a monitor? or the one built in Tongue
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« Reply #561 on: July 20, 2007, 05:48:18 PM »

Quote from: "Zehnsucht" date="1184901879"
I was wondering if you could specify your water cooling setup? I'm planning one myself, but am not sure if it's the right way to go, since it seems that I have some airflow problems (no cover reduces temp by 3-4 degrees C in load).

What temperatures did you had before water cooling and how are they relative to your new temps?
(I'm talking about CPU temps)

My setup initially consisted of a CoolIt Freezone TEC cooler.  I later added a 120mm radiator and reservoir to the loop. As it stands.  I've got an Laing Alphacool DDC pump --> Alphacool NexXxos CPU block --> Danger Den 120mm radiator --> Freezone TEC's and heatsink --> reservoir --> back to pump.

Airflow doesn't seem to be much of an issue for me, despite the amount of gear in this case.  I have made sure to allow airflow where I need it.

I jumped right in to watercooling, I've got no other temps to compare it to.  The CPU currently runs in the mid 30's under load.  The addition of the radiator didn't lower my temps much, but it did stabilize the temps I already had.

Ash, as a sidenote, this thing weighs 35 pounds!
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« Reply #562 on: July 23, 2007, 04:02:14 PM »

Whew!  What a weekend!  The LAN was a blast!  I gamed for about 20 out of 24 hours.  Although I'm sitting here at work wishing I could find a place to take a nap, the weekend was worth it.  When I started this project, I wanted to do something pretty extreme, but I also wanted a rig that was solid.  I didn't want to throw anything in the case just for the sake of showing off.  It had to have a purpose and useful function.  Well, this thing proved it's worth to me over the weekend.  It was rock solid stable.  Not a single crash or glitch.  The temps were stable under nonstop gaming.  I even ran the whole weekend booted in Vista.  Once again, it was a flawless showing.  Damn, I love this thing!  The only possible downside I can think of....  my gaming skills were a little lacking.  I've spent too much time building, and not enough time gaming!   That's about to change!  ;-)
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« Reply #563 on: July 23, 2007, 04:51:47 PM »

Congratulations Craig.

It’s been a long road. Thanks so much for sharing it with us.
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« Reply #564 on: July 23, 2007, 04:56:17 PM »

Thanks Eric!  I've just got a few small details to take care of, including those side panels.... but, it's so close to finally done!
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« Reply #565 on: July 24, 2007, 02:53:38 PM »

Stunning work Craig. What resolution are you running the desktop at on that LCD pic on the previous page?
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« Reply #566 on: July 24, 2007, 03:27:09 PM »

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Stunning work Craig. What resolution are you running the desktop at on that LCD pic on the previous page?

Thanks Richard!  The LCD is currently running at 800x600, due to me actually wanting to read whats on the screen.  It will scale much higher though.  It will run at least 1600x1200.  There are currently limitations with the USB video adapter though.  Namely, the lack of widescreen or custom resolutions.  These would disappear if I were to use one of my video card outputs.  I'm also not completely happy with the viewing angle of the LCD.  This is a limitation of the resistive panel of the touchscreen.  The LCD itself is amazingly crystal clear, and quite stunning.  I'm hoping to swap out the panel at some point in the future to get some of that detail back.
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« Reply #567 on: July 28, 2007, 04:54:28 AM »

Well, I've almost got my side panel designs finalized.  I wanted to keep them simple, but they may be too simple.  I truly haven't decided yet, but I doubt they'll change much from what I have posted below.  Yes, the panels are reversed.  That way all the milling is done from the reverse side.  The logos should catch the light quite nicely...  Let me know what you think!



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« Reply #568 on: August 03, 2007, 05:51:01 PM »

I'm front page news!  My worklog at HardOCP got linked on their front page.  I must be doing something right!


Now I gotta get this thing finished!
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« Reply #569 on: August 03, 2007, 06:00:17 PM »

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...The connections may not be integrated in the case, but I though this was the best solution for the time being.  It certainly offers me the flexibility I need for future changes without hacking up the case.

LOL, the irony of that statement made me laugh after seeing all those dremel hours you have put in.

Excellent mod, you deserve the publicity!
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« Reply #570 on: August 04, 2007, 04:48:22 PM »

just to say i look forward to hearing you're cries when you put a quad core in there.

just installed my quad core and it's hitting

well



that's with 4 cores at load and with a double 120mm and a single 120mm, not pretty
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« Reply #571 on: August 04, 2007, 05:18:29 PM »

High 60's triple with radiators... That's bad.. That's really bad. Well, the upcoming 45 nm is supposed to have lower heat, and there are due the end of this year.
Maybe we are hitting the max heat for the time being, seeing that both CPU's and GPU's are changing the manufactoring process to smaller width and thus reducing heat.
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« Reply #572 on: August 04, 2007, 10:14:46 PM »

Damn hugh, those temps are a whole lot higher than I expected.  I don't think I'm going to change platforms until the first of next year.  There's nothing out at the moment that I can't play with the details cranked, so I'm going to wait just a while.  As Zehnsucht said, the new chips coming out at the end of the year, may be perfect for small boxes like ours.
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« Reply #573 on: August 05, 2007, 12:30:02 AM »

lol, that is no thtat bad.  My core duo in my laptop hits about 70 at load, and idles around 55-60.  Not to worried myself, is there more danger with a desktop? I thought there would be less of a problem. Dont most porblems crop up around the 100 degree mark with the core (2) duo series?
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« Reply #574 on: August 05, 2007, 03:27:05 AM »

Quote from: "hugh" date="1186260502"
just to say i look forward to hearing you're cries when you put a quad core in there.

just installed my quad core and it's hitting

well



that's with 4 cores at load and with a double 120mm and a single 120mm, not pretty
Yikes!

Well, hugh, is that with the 8800GTX in the loop now too?  If so, that can't help your CPU.  My temps went up considerably once the GTX jumped into the mix.  

For my next build (not sure when) I am planning to go the water-cooled TEC on CPU route.  I think that's about the only way to get 4+ CPU cores' temps down to a happy level in a shuttle or similarly small SFF box.  So Yeah, thinking a lot about dual loop - one for cooling the CPU TEC and one for everything else.  Not sure how I would power such a TEC and everything else, but pondering an external brick for TEC, and internal PSU for everything else.  Anyhow, those temps are pretty scary hugh!
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