11 year old boy shoots a monster Pig

[Fontaine]

:bug: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_monster_pig;_ylt=AiIfvWn.rk6Cypyz7y3bV7ys0NUE

MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Hogzilla is being made into a horror movie. But the sequel may be even bigger: Meet Monster Pig. An 11-year-old boy used a pistol to kill a wild hog his father says weighed a staggering 1,051 pounds and measured 9 feet 4, from the tip of its snout to the base of its tail. Think hams as big as car tires.

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If the claims are accurate, Jamison Stone's trophy boar would be bigger than Hogzilla, the famed wild hog that grew to seemingly mythical proportions after being killed in south Georgia in 2004.

Jamison, who killed his first deer at age 5, was hunting with father Mike Stone and two guides in east Alabama on May 3 when he bagged Monster Pig. He said he shot the huge animal eight times with a .50-caliber revolver and chased it for three hours through hilly woods before finishing it off with a point-blank shot.

Amazing size. (if story is really true)

Crazy though that 11 year old boys are walking in the forest with guns like those and shooting deers at age 5.

[Reflex]

Why is it crazy?  As long as he is trained in gun safety, there is nothing wrong with it at all.  Guns are just tools.

[hugh]

so you don't mind if 6 year olds are cruising the streets of new york etc etc in fast cars and SUV's if they have been shown how to drive

[hydran]

why kill the boar?

this stuff makes me mad - these kids should be at home in front of a wii playing computer games, not going around killing defenceless animals.  What a total b*st*rd

[Fontaine]

Why is it crazy?  As long as he is trained in gun safety, there is nothing wrong with it at all.  Guns are just tools.

Ok for america its '''normal'' in rest of civilized world its crazy.
At age 5 you play with water pistols.

Stupid (fat) kid who thinks he's the man with shooting animals.

He should be hunted himself for some teaching lessons.

[Nighteye]

You find a unique specimen of animal...and then you kill it. Ugh. How the stupidity of one kid is a loss to the world... :shut:

[Timster]

so you don't mind if 6 year olds are cruising the streets of new york etc etc in fast cars and SUV's if they have been shown how to drive

In most states, children under the age of 10 can hunt while accompained by an adult.  I was given a epllet rifle at age 7, and by age 11 I was shooting large bore rifles and shotguns.  About a year later, I was allowed to hunt unsupervised.  During those years shooting the pellet rifle, I was taught the consequences of a destructive device, and the responsibility that goes with handling one.

I'll bet that this kid wasn't hunting alone. His father might not have been immediately by his side, but withing yelling distance.  I wouldn't hunt anything that size alone, even as an adult!

[KoolHonda]

LOL, obviously some of you have never encountered a wild boar in the woods before.

[hugh]

the relevance of that is??

[Fontaine]

LOL, obviously some of you have never encountered a wild boar in the woods before.

I did, I have eated it alive.

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They go in the forest to find boars or deers or whatever to shoot them - for the fun of it.
A sick pistol he got btw.

[hugh]

the pistols look fun

and whether i've seen a wild boar i doubt shooting 8 something times would be the best thing to do rather than ignore it, you sayin he happened to find and kill it in self defense?

[KoolHonda]

Well, I have been deep in the woods and charged by a boar, so I have no pity for the pig. They aren't cute little harmless animals. They're a nuisance and potentionally dangerous. I hope the kid bags another one next weekend.

[hugh]

he chased it rather than it chasing him by the sound of it, hmmmm

does that mean if you went hunting for umm, a goat, and saw a tiger, black panther, snow lion, you'd shoot it dead because they are potentially dangerous?

[KoolHonda]

I don't really get the point of that. He was hunting Boar, and got a big one. Maybe it's because I lived in the deep south all my life, but I don't have a problem with it.

[Reflex]

I guess you Euros are detached from your food supply or something.  Where do you think 'pork' in your grocery store comes from?  Someone has to kill the pig.  In this case, the child is being taught the skills to do it for himself rather than rely on the commercial infrastructure to do it for him.  Its environmentally friendly, its a very good skill to have, and honestly, for those who like hunting, its a lot of fun.

I don't see what the big deal is.  A gun is a tool.  A tool that was used very properly in this case.  It was not him cruising down the street in a car, that is a straw man reply.  He appears to me to be a very responsible young man who happens to be a decent hunter at his young age.

I coud see the outrage if he was untrained, unsupervised, or if wild boar were an endangered species.  The point of the story is not that giant wild boar are scarce, they are not, but that a very young kid managed to bag one.  Its too bad that some then feel the need to bash him for his accomplishment.

[hydran]

his accomplishment was to bag a trophy by using a piece of machinery that pits him at an advantage over an animal that was just minding its own.  

Did he eat it?  I'd be surprised.

[Fontaine]

I dont see it really its that it requires much skill. Heck, he could shoot deers at age 5..



It was just ''trophy'' hunting, not for food. And look how fat he is, its not like he was starving

I do know where meat comes from but I bet most animal hunting there is not for food but for excitement/adventure. Ok they may use the meat, although often not themself and sell it to someone.

Over here we have very stickt policies and only when there is really too much of a certain species hunters are allowed to shoot them in very strict numbers.
Are there still many wild animals in the forests over there?

You know a pig isnt that bad but a deer is worse and a bear, puma etc shamefull.

And when they are not enough sattificied they go to Africa for their wettest dream to become reality.



Above are just bastards in my eyes but they sit there so proud while a bear is like 10 times stronger. Only with big rifles + scopes they have enough ''bravery''.

[KoolHonda]

I agree that trophy hunting is shamefull, but hunting vermin is not. I bet they had on heck of a BBQ as you generally can't sell wild game here, but you can give it away for free.

[hydran]

more bastards for the s*** list:

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/35244681

they shot a tame bear in captivity, then tried to claim that it was wild.  Is there anything more cowardly?

[KoolHonda]

Well, I guess you'll hate one of the stories on the front page of our local "newspaper". http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070527/NEWS01/705270305/1004/NEWS01

[Reflex]

I dont see it really its that it requires much skill. Heck, he could shoot deers at age 5..

Have you ever learned how to use a firearm on a moving target?  Do you realize just how difficult it is to do with a pistol, especially a hand cannon like he was using?  Give it a try sometime, something tells me you may have a change of heart.

It was just ''trophy'' hunting, not for food. And look how fat he is, its not like he was starving

I highly doubt they did not eat the boar.  That would be ridiculous and a waste of money.  Bullets are not free, and boar is quite tasty when prepared right I hear.  I am going to assume your judgement on the kid is a joke, if not its insensitive.

I do know where meat comes from but I bet most animal hunting there is not for food but for excitement/adventure. Ok they may use the meat, although often not themself and sell it to someone.

As pointed out by KoolHonda, most states don't allow you to sell it.  I do not know any hunters who hunt purely for sport and its not something I support.  I am sure some exist, but I would wager they are in the vast minority.  

Over here we have very stickt policies and only when there is really too much of a certain species hunters are allowed to shoot them in very strict numbers.

We have the same policies, that is not a difference.

Are there still many wild animals in the forests over there?

Yes, yes there are.  And due to the removal of predator species a century ago like wolves, they overpopulate and then starve to death since their natural check is gone.  We are attempting to re-introduce wolves in the wild areas of the US(which, btw, are most of the country in terms of land mass), but that will take time, and is unlikely to ever completey rectify the situation.  The US is still mostly untamed, and very wild.

You know a pig isnt that bad but a deer is worse and a bear, puma etc shamefull.

The largest nuisance animal in the US is the deer, which is so overpopulated that frequently they can starve to death by the hundreds or thousands if not controlled via hunting.  When not enough hunters apply for permits the government has to hunt the herd themself, at great expense to the taxpayer I might add.  Bears are not threatened here btw, there are tons of them and they cause problems.  Big cats are not typically hunted, only if they become a threat to a residential area are they hunted, and even then its not by locals with rifles, its by game wardens or animal control who take it into captivity and try to move it elsewhere.

And when they are not enough sattificied they go to Africa for their wettest dream to become reality.

Yes, this is a sad practice.  My boss is from South Africa and she talked at great length about the European tour groups who would come through trying to hire guides for illegal hunt.  Oddly enough she never saw an american group, I wonder why that is?  Not trying to disparage the Euros or anything, but perhaps having wild areas and being able to hunt mitigates the natural hunter/gatherer urges that our biology has bred into us for millennia...

Above are just bastards in my eyes but they sit there so proud while a bear is like 10 times stronger. Only with big rifles + scopes they have enough ''bravery''.

Perhaps, or perhaps your just reading into the image that which justifies your ideals.

I don't hunt, btw, I can't bring myself to kill something.  I move spiders I find in my house outside rather than kill them.  Its just how I am.  But I have many hunter friends, and most are VERY environmenaly conscious, they feel they are the stewards of the land and take the job very seriously.  Its not a bunch of happy-go-lucky yokels out with shotguns killing everything in sight.

[hydran]

Its not a bunch of happy-go-lucky yokels out with shotguns killing everything in sight.

whatever gave us that impression?

[KoolHonda]

I don't hunt either, but when I saw the ooh poor piggy posts I had to type something. I'd bet $5 if you said that in a real southern bar around some farmers who'd just had their fields rutted up, you'd be eating though a straw the next day.

[hydran]

I don't hunt either, but when I saw the ooh poor piggy posts I had to type something. I'd bet $5 if you said that in a real southern bar around some farmers who'd just had their fields rutted up, you'd be eating though a straw the next day.

so its wrong because some hicks say so?

[hugh]

Have you ever learned how to use a firearm on a moving target?  Do you realize just how difficult it is to do with a pistol, especially a hand cannon like he was using?  Give it a try sometime, something tells me you may have a change of heart.

i find it pretty damned easy actually, didn't take any "training", just some hand eye coordination and a simple understanding of the fact that bullets are not fast as light

I am going to assume your judgement on the kid is a joke, if not its insensitive.

i don't think it's insensitive, we're not the ones with mcdonalds on every corner selling superdooper mamouth mega meals

The largest nuisance animal in the US is the deer, which is so overpopulated that frequently they can starve to death by the hundreds or thousands if not controlled via hunting.  When not enough hunters apply for permits the government has to hunt the herd themself, at great expense to the taxpayer I might add.  Bears are not threatened here btw, there are tons of them and they cause problems.  Big cats are not typically hunted, only if they become a threat to a residential area are they hunted, and even then its not by locals with rifles, its by game wardens or animal control who take it into captivity and try to move it elsewhere.

so instead of letting nature correct the issue the govt intervenes and waste everyones money?

don’t hunt either, but when I saw the ooh poor piggy posts I had to type something. I’d bet $5 if you said that in a real southern bar around some farmers who’d just had their fields rutted up, you’d be eating though a straw the next day.

not sure how to comment on that but i think hydran sums it up well.