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« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2007, 05:21:21 PM » |
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For fans, if you can afford to pay a lot, get Noctuas - slient and efficient. They're like $20 each in the US, not sure how much they are in the UK.
Scythes are good too, they're usually a little cheaper.
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« Reply #76 on: August 02, 2007, 05:32:16 PM » |
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« Reply #78 on: August 03, 2007, 08:04:57 AM » |
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For fans, if you can afford to pay a lot, get Noctuas - slient and efficient. They're like $20 each in the US, not sure how much they are in the UK.
Scythes are good too, they're usually a little cheaper. I know, Noctuas are nice and silent, but question is are they afficient for this radiator and for this amount of energy (heat) transferred from GTS and e6700 - or, maybe in the future - 9800GTX? |
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your mothers an astronaut
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« Reply #79 on: August 03, 2007, 01:29:08 PM » |
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I'd be more worried about the heat production from the 8800GTX, not the 9800GTX. From the specs I've seen on it, the 9800 will be on a 65nm process, which means a lower TDP (less power consumption, less heat).
And yes, Noctuas will work fine on a radiator. If you're worried about both noise and performance, really want the best, and are willing to pay for it, get two 120mm Noctuas for each side of the radiator and do it in a push-pull configuration...one Noctua pushing air through the rad, the other pulling. That way, you get both silence and performance, although it will take up more space and double the cost of fans. But if I wanted to go all out on a watercooled setup, that's the way I'd do it. IMO, watercooling is just one of those things you shouldn't skimp out on.
Have you considered using a 120mm heater core for a radiator? They're on par with Thermochill radiators and cost a lot less because you can get them from auto parts stores and braze your own barbs onto them. Alternately, DangerDen sells Chevette heater cores with 3/8" or 1/2" barbs already on them. Heater cores are my choice for rads because they're cheaper but usually get as good or better performance than a conventional radiator. Only downside is that they're generally thicker, so to get the most out of them fans should be in a push-pull condifuration like I mentioned above.
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« Reply #80 on: August 03, 2007, 01:51:48 PM » |
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Thanks for advice. Actually I already ordered my rad - swiftech 220. But I will go for Noctuas 1200 - expensive but silent... this is what I'm looking for.
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« Reply #81 on: August 03, 2007, 05:45:20 PM » |
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Good man. Swiftech rads are really good too. Swiftech in general is an awesome watercooling company.
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« Reply #82 on: August 04, 2007, 01:41:55 PM » |
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Does anyone know any acyrlic laser cut providers in UK? I wonder how much would it cost...
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« Reply #84 on: August 04, 2007, 09:06:56 PM » |
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did anyone use that kind of service before? I wonder how much does it cost...
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phinix
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« Reply #85 on: August 04, 2007, 11:59:34 PM » |
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ok, I added some red acrylic panels on drive cage... I'm gonna also cover it with chrome vinyl tape.  |
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« Reply #86 on: August 05, 2007, 01:17:40 AM » |
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Added the pump stand - made of red acrylic of course:)  and here is all inside - you can see I added CPU block. Pump standing on its place...  What do you think about it??? |
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« Reply #87 on: August 05, 2007, 01:53:13 AM » |
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I'm going to make PSU brackets to hang it below top panel. It will be made of aluminium. It will be painted shiny black.  Here's PSU covered with chrome vinyl tape, hanging on them...  Of course all that chrome tape covered parts depend on if I find someone cheap to actually chrome them. If that service will be too expensive, I'm gonna use that tape... |
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« Reply #88 on: August 05, 2007, 10:50:36 AM » |
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This time with screws and diff angle...  |
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« Reply #89 on: August 05, 2007, 11:55:14 AM » |
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I'm sure your 3D skills are ok, but when were you planning on starting on the actual mod? I think people are losing interest, they wanna see a real worklog, not a planning phase.
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phinix
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« Reply #90 on: August 05, 2007, 03:02:52 PM » |
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I'm sure your 3D skills are ok, but when were you planning on starting on the actual mod? I think people are losing interest, they wanna see a real worklog, not a planning phase. If you read previous posts, you will see I mentioned when I'm going to start it. You really do not have to read this if you are not interested. I said when I'm going to start it - everything what I put till then is only a preperation - like the title says - the beginning. When you check all other worklogs you will see that projects like this one starts from planning - this is the most important phase of every project. When all the building starts there won't be time for mistakes, or you gonna have to pay for them a lot. So if you are interested, you can come back here in September... |
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« Reply #91 on: August 05, 2007, 04:11:32 PM » |
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we're impatient buggars, nuff pics and more hack n slash!  but i agree, planning is important, my recent thing cost me a fortune to do because of mistakes, not enough pieces bought etc, i still don't bother planning though  |
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« Reply #92 on: August 05, 2007, 08:13:21 PM » |
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This time with screws and diff angle... Just one word of caution on your plans. I am not sure how that pump will do over time in that position. I had two of these pumps that ended up getting VERY noisy when mounted upside down. I don't know how vertical mounting would affect the pump, but I do know that it's really designed to sit horizontally so as to use the impeller as the pump bearing. Anyhow, ask around and see if anyone else has mounted theirs vertically, and how it worked out for them. I may be being paranoid since I had two pumps get noisy on me until I mounted them right side up. |
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« Reply #93 on: August 05, 2007, 08:49:00 PM » |
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Well, you might be right kenanue, there may be a problem with that, but never heard of it. If that is a problem, I will reorganise my drive cage. I had some idea how to build that cage, so if that plan will go live, then the pump will have it's new position, like it should. Thanks for precious hint.
didi79: see, that is why I started that worklog - thread so early - just to eliminate all mistakes made by guys over here before. This forum gives you an endless source of knowledge form all of us, so you can use it for your benefit. Free of charge ;-) This kind of projects are very expensive, noone here is a billionare, so no point to repeat everyone's mistakes again - it would cost you a lot. I know - everyone is waiting for action. I can't wait too, but if you read all my stuff, you would know that I just bought a house, spent a lot on money on repairing my .. f***.. car and now I'm going on 2 weeks holiday to finally get some rest after chasing a nice house - believe me - IT IS exhausting. So, after I come back, I will move to a new house, make all upgrades there, order a nice big garden hut and start my sweet project. Plus - I'm still need more money for it. 9800GTX is coming on november :cheese:
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« Reply #94 on: August 05, 2007, 09:13:56 PM » |
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Just one word of caution on your plans. I am not sure how that pump will do over time in that position.... I think I found something - look, on Alphacool's website they have that acrylic top AND this top has wholes for putting it on it's side!... Look on that pump's photos, 3rd photo shows how they screwed it to fan whole at the rear of the case. If I got it correctly, you said you had it ups ide down, right? So maybe it's becasue that position? I had a few cases that I had to change my fans, because when I turned them up side down, bearings started make that noise, fan head went down and it was sliding on bearings... |
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« Reply #95 on: August 05, 2007, 09:45:41 PM » |
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one thing i've been wondering
have you taken into account case airflow?
as it seems you are relying on your radiators intake to then waft upto the roof, probably pretty darn warm and then be expelled by the psu
you might want to slide your drive rack forward and get a 120mm fans infront of the psu and an additional 120mm intake fan in the top half?
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« Reply #96 on: August 05, 2007, 10:07:18 PM » |
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one thing i've been wondering
have you taken into account case airflow?
as it seems you are relying on your radiators intake to then waft upto the roof, probably pretty darn warm and then be expelled by the psu
you might want to slide your drive rack forward and get a 120mm fans infront of the psu and an additional 120mm intake fan in the top half? actually I was thinking about it, because I cannot rely only on water cooling. I will drill some intake wholes in the case, but also was thinkg where I could put that fans... maybe 120mm fan on top left corner, left panel - outtake. Another two 92mm fans on the front, level1 , below dvd... can you draw on my jpg where do you see that fans?? |
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« Reply #97 on: August 05, 2007, 11:43:19 PM » |
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 bottom exhaust infront of hdd rack and centered (it would be odd to have them in corners etc, just look daft) as to the top half, i'd either have one directly above the lower one (this will mean you'll get slightly warmer than ambient air but nothing to wory about) or in the front center of the top panel. i would prefer the fron panel fan for 2 reasons 1. it would look symetrical and if you got a nice air of fangrills like some ac ryan strpes in black, then it would look awesome 2. i don't like fans on the top as i normally like to put my mobile and wallet etc ontop of my computer or dvd's etc |
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« Reply #98 on: August 06, 2007, 12:20:12 AM » |
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only problem for level 2 front fan would be that there is no room for it - it will be exactly in place of 8800GTX:-(
IF, that is a big IF - new 9800GTX will be smaller than 8800GTX then it will be fine. I was going to put a fan tehre and the same like you mentioned on level1 - both good ideas, thanks Hugh.
About that level1 - If pump vertical position will be bad for it, then I will reorganize my drive cage - I will keep dvd in center, but move hdds on the left, tehn will have some kind of shelf on right to put pump there:) - THEN it will be good for two 92mm fans in a row... don't you think? cause 120mm won't fit, not unoguh room under a dvd...
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« Reply #99 on: August 06, 2007, 12:41:01 AM » |
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i'll just finnish this film and go have a look for that manual.
when you get the pump you get a piece of paper with diagrams. 6 in total i think showing which ways you can and can't use the pump
afair you can use it any way aside from upside down and nozzles pointing downwards but let me varify that for you
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