A guy, 22, wants to have sex with a girl who’s 16. I’m the dad of a 1 year old daughter. I am worried about her enough as it is, but I cant think of how much I’d worry about this if this was my daughter. I’m angry about this guy doing this, am I right to be angry? What would you do if your daughter was in this situation?
(to make things equal, you can read the 22 year old guys side on his blog, EDITED )
Note: This is forum spam(see page 5 of the thread for information), its a good conversation, but we don’t need to help this guy boost his blog. -Reflex
A large proportion of countries have the Age of Consent as less than 18, many like Canada, the UK, Some US States, etc have it at 16 as it is in Ontario where this guy is.
Even in places where the age of consent is 18, Close Age Exceptions usually apply meaning anyone up to 24 may be not guilty of anything.
What I think is making you so Angry is a combination of the way you have been raised (perhaps in a state with quite stong Consent Laws) and your insecurities over your daughter. (My son is the same age, so I can appreciate) All you can really do is raise them the right way and trust they won’t start dating a Sleazeball.
Reading the Blog, I’m not quite sure if he was looking for a 16 year old, or she just happened to be a 16 year old. The other way round the guy who was Best Man at my wedding has twice been picked up in clubs (Over 21 Entry) by Girls who were 15 but told him they were much older. Perhaps your anger should be aimed at the elements of society that convince young girls they have to behave that way.
It was a funny story to read. And he didn’t have sex but he will call her…
And I think it was a show off story and secondly its not really shocking 22 and 16 years these days.
Girls mostly like older guys and people just have less restrictions these days.
Well, that’s 10 years ago, I was talking with my friend’s dad, who’s a very nice Republican and a representative in Vermont’s legislative branch.
Somehow I started this question “How old do you think should Adam(my friend) be to be considered proper dating girl(s) and even developing further relationship?” His answer was 16. The reason behind this number is plain and simple, “He has to be able to drive the girl home legally”, then he added “by himself”.
And back to the topic, I can understand TC’s concern cuz you’ve got a daughter yourself. But I think in this particular case, that 22-year-old guy was assuming those 2 girls were 18. And the number of 16 definitely has pushed him back a little bit on the scene.
i mean just look at mum and dad. the majority of the time there is around 4 years between their ages etc, it’s just the fact that it’s at an earlier point in life that makes poeple thing OH NOSE! i see nothing wrong with it in all honesty
maybe that’s from where i come from though. at my school most girls 17 were usually seing people in their twenties as they were more mature and dependable and, well, richer than us mere students
The age we consider children to act as a mature adults keeps slipping to the older side. I think most of this comes from the requirement in modern societies to have some form of skilled trade or secondary education to be financially stable enough to marry and raise a family. At an age where you’re not seen as an adult, you’re not always expected to act as one. I was looking through an old high school yearbook from the early 1900’s and graduating classes were fairly small, and the percentage of males graduating was less than females. At a time when you could get a well paying factory job or enter an apprenticeship at age 16, the only reason to continue on with high school is if you plan to go to a university.
From a historic point of view, 16 is not too young, but from a modern maturity POV, I remain undecided. Is there such a jump in physical and emotional maturity from age 16 to age 18 to say the latter is a much better age to consider someone to act and behave as a responsible adult?
These things are so difficult to figure out. It’s really hard to say.
For example, I started dating a girl who was 19 when I was 30. Her mother wouldn’t even call my by name at first. I was just “Craddlerobber.” However, I’m now 35, she’s 24 and we’ve been married for almost two years. And that’s a bigger gap than the two in that article.
Moreover, I’ve known plenty of 16 year old boys AND girls who were more mature than the average 22 year old. But at the same time, I’d hate it if it was my daughter (assuming my wife and I ever have kids).
Moreover, I’ve known plenty of 16 year old boys AND girls who were more mature than the average 22 year old. But at the same time, I’d hate it if it was my daughter (assuming my wife and I ever have kids).
Yeah. I realize there’s a wide variety of maturity levels out there - people are, of course, individuals.
That said…
She clearly wants to fuck me. And I want to fuck that 16-year-old.
This seems to be a growing reality now. Perhaps the conservative folks have set the bars to high for what would be considered “the right age” of consent, however if both are not performing an illegal act (having sex with a minor), and both are interested in each other, I see no problem with it what so ever. There is one glaring fact though, in that it seems like this guy just writes about picking girls up? Sounds like he is spending too much time on the net, and blogging about hypothetical situations, than actually picking girls up. One other thing, unless he was recording the conversation, how does he have accurate records of what “she said.” Just a thought…
First off, its Canada and the age of consent is what their population feels is appropriate. I have no issues with that. The same age of consent exists in several US states as well as the UK.
Secondly, all a parent can ever do is raise their child with a sense of self-respect and some moral values. You really do not have any say regardless of what the law says. If your daughter wants to have sex at 16, 14, 12, she is going to and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. Behave as you wish her to behave and you have the best chance of preventing a situation like this.
And finally, age differences do not bother me that much, at least to a point. I was 27 when I started dating a 19 year old, we have been together three years now(and were friends for years before that through her family). That said, my gf previous to her was around 40 and we were together for a few years as well. Compatibility is not really determined by age, at least not in my experience. That said, there certainly are some reasonable limits to keep in mind.
Oh, and finally, keep in mind the source for this article is the blog of a self-proclaimed ‘player’. He appears to me to be part of the ‘seduction’ movement, which is a group that seeks scientific methodology for getting girls to bed. By nature, I would expect the article to be biased and optimistic, after all this is what he is after. How true the actual anecdote is is a different story.
When I was in my teens I was more interested in girls my age or older than those who were a grade or two below mine. I went to college I found college girls more interesting than the ones back in high school, except for a few in senior class. When I turned 21 I was more interested in meeting women in bars than hanging around a mall picking up jailbait.
When I was in my teens I was more interested in girls my age or older than those who were a grade or two below mine. I went to college I found college girls more interesting than the ones back in high school, except for a few in senior class. When I turned 21 I was more interested in meeting women in bars than hanging around a mall picking up jailbait.
how true, how true.
My friends mother [50+] hit on me when I was ~20, I thought it was weird.
However if a women of age [~20] absolutely threw herself at just about any male [20+] he would hit back. Just human nature [male].
Actively seeking underage/younger females all the time is a sickness IMO.
You all are saying “dating”, which kind of puts a sugar-coating over it.
DeWayne puts it straight-up raw, like “having sex with”.
I think we’re discounting the perspective here. From a Father’s perspective, “22 year old guy having sex with 16 year old girl”, my sixteen year old, hell yeah, you have “a right to be upset”. Being “upset” doesn’t mean you have the right to commit a crime however and how you deal with both of them at that time can have a life-long impact. It wouldn’t matter if it were a Sixteen and Sixteen year old, hell yeah “you have a right to be upset”. The age of knowledge and responsibility varies from individual to culture and state to country, but generally speaking most sixteen year old girls are too young to know better, and too young to take on the respondibility of raising a child. That is why we have 110% valid concerns about this.
At Nineteen a lot of people are still too young to know better, but at least are better able, but barely qualified to support a child. (notice I didn’t say “raise a child") To use a public entertainer as an example, Britney Spears had started young and is living an ultra-fast lifestyle… and recently lost her kids in a custody battle. Highly unusual for even neglectful and irresponsible Women here. (it’s difficult to prove neglectful and irresponsible to a court when true or not, the defense is saying all the same things to muddy the waters) Obviously an extreme example but a lot of people fall somewhere in the middle and are still actively pursuing “a life” of friends, study, partying and dating. Not the best environment for raising a child especially if astranged with her “upset” parent; who will at some point, take up some of the slack by offering/providing life-counciling, moral/morale support, decision guiding/consultation, financial assistance, babysitting, etcetera…
Kids have to rely on so much more than just their immediate parents and when when that close-knit family support structure breaks up, it makes it harder on everyone.
Oh, and finally, keep in mind the source for this article is the blog of a self-proclaimed ‘player’. He appears to me to be part of the ‘seduction’ movement, which is a group that seeks scientific methodology for getting girls to bed. By nature, I would expect the article to be biased and optimistic, after all this is what he is after. How true the actual anecdote is is a different story.
As a “player” he should’ve quit trolling the malls years ago and moved on to bigger hunting grounds. Teenyboppers are way too easy of game. It’s poor sport to hunt in the petting zoo. I think that disturbs me more than the age difference if they were truly emotionally involved with each other.
than us mere students
